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Should have whipped the ball back across the box after their keeper pushed Sibley’s shot sort of wide, but he fully dallied and the moment was gone. Also should have passed rather than shooting on his weaker foot. Yea, he did add a bit more energy, but his defensive side of his duties was found wanting!
Pleased someone else noticed this - seemed like a great opportunity after the sibley shot to cross it across the 6 yard box, instead stopped and let derby get back.
 
It was a scrappy and disappointing point in some ways, but for perspective we’re 10th in the Championship having come through a challenging run of games in Sept and Oct while the injuries are piling up. Mind you, every run of games is challenging now.

El-Miz has gone off the boil a bit. I’d give Sibley a start over RR on Saturday and keep Tyler out wide.

Hasn’t looked very effective out wide recently.
 
Thought the starting midfield three were all a bit weak today and the subbing of them should have happened much earlier, with Goodrham going central.

While Nelson is obviously very good and had two or three good runs forward, he also had quite a few very bad passes and was lucky they didn't get punished more.
 
The highlights from a very dark Ka££am Stadium.

 
Last Christmas Derby bullied us into submission. This season we stood up to a similar physical barrage. So there’s progress of sorts.

Cannot believe that Nelson ranks so highly in man of match standings. He made a number of sloppy individual errors and could have cost us this game.

Moore was titanic tonight; he kept us in the game during that exceeedingky rocky period in the second half.

The neutral mate watching with me thought a point apiece was fair and both teams will stay up comfortably.

Thought there were some interesting tactics on display but boy were we under par in midfield. Bran can’t come back soon enough. Anyway COYY .
At times Nelson plays riskier passes forward than Moore, so more of his are intercepted. But it’s risk and reward, the one he clipped over the full back’s head which Tyler burst onto was sublime..
 
Sibley’s been awful the last 2 times he’s come on, and we seem to have lost our shape when he comes on too, but agree El Mizouni’s not been at his best in spells of the game either!
Don't agree on Sibley, but I think either way it would be worth giving him a start. Think it's so hard to come on as a sub in these games and make a proper impact.
 
Pleased someone else noticed this - seemed like a great opportunity after the sibley shot to cross it across the 6 yard box, instead stopped and let derby get back.

Seemed to be a common theme last night across the team of over playing and making an extra pass when there was no need to.
 
The big positives for me were Nelson, Scarlett and Mc Eachran coming on

After Derby scored I thought they would go on and win it but when Mc Eachran came on the game swung back to us
His first two passes set up attacks and we were on the front foot again
I think Vaulks plays better when we are up against it and don’t have much of the ball but if the games where we can attack more Mc Eachran has to play
 
Took me ages to get home last night, what with road closures and junction 10 on the M40 closed!

I thought both teams were quite poor last night. It made for quite an engrossing game, but there was a lack of quality. The amount of times the ball was booted straight into touch, that the ball got tangled between players' legs and that relatively simple passes went straight to the other team was quite notable. It stopped there being much flow about the game.

I expected us to do rather better - not in the result (you can never 'expect' a result, only hope for one!), but I thought we might control the ball more than we did. We seem to have lost the pace out wide that was a feature of our earlier games of the season, and also look *much* more conservative with the ball - taking the safe option far more. Although of course the 'safe' option is anything but safe if you can't pass accurately. We had players fiddling about with the ball in dangerous areas - that not only cost us the goal, there were other occasions as well. We can't play entirely in front of the opposition, we need to break through/past them - that is how our goal came. We didn't really do it again. I do slightly worry about our lack of goal threat, and I don't think that has anything to do with whether it's Harris or Scarlett up front, it is to do with the supply and the slow speed of ball movement in midfield. In truth, it's the central midfield that was poorest last night.

Still, I guess it is a point, but we will never be promoted if we can't beat teams like Derby... ;)
 
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I thought Dembele going off upset our rythym, Hope it isn't a bad injury .Dale is no replacement for him unfortunately. Derby were a big strong side who were too physical for us at times. We really need a win to consolidate, but Sunderland on Saturday will be a really tough one so can't see it coming there.
 
Took me ages to get home last night, what with road closures and junction 10 on the M40 closed!

I thought both teams were quite poor last night. It made for quite an engrossing game, but there was a lack of quality. The amount of times the ball was booted straight into touch, that the ball got tangles between players' legs and that relatively simple passes went straight to the other team was quite notable. It stopped there being much flow about the game.

I expected us to do rather better - not in the result (you can never 'expect' a result, only hope for one!), but I thought we might control the ball more than we did. We seem to have lost the pace out wide that was a feature of our earlier games of the season, and also look *much* more conservative with the ball - taking the safe option far more. Although of course the '' option is anything but safe if you can't pass accurately. We had players fiddling about with the ball in dangerous areas - that not only cost us the goal, there were other occasions as well. We can't play entirely in front of the opposition, we need to break through/past them - that is how our goal came. We didn't really do it again. I do slightly worry about our lack of goal threat, and I don't think that has anything to do with whether it's Harris or Scarlett up front, it is to do with the supply and the slow speed of ball movement in midfield. In truth, it's the central midfield that was poorest last night.

Still, I guess it is a point, but we will never be promoted if we can't beat teams like Derby... ;)
The two lowest quality games so far were against Pompey & Derby. That’s not having a go at those clubs, we were equally lacking quality but both looked like games from last season!
 
The two lowest quality games so far were against Pompey & Derby. That’s not having a go at those clubs, we were equally lacking quality but both looked like games from last season!
They did. There were periods of play last night that wouldn't have been out of place in L2, never mind the Championship or L1.
 
Their CB Cashin looked like a walking red card. Very surprised we didn't put him under more pressure last night. Maybe we need to be a bit smarter at identifying and captilising on such marginal gains, but in such a tight league where we will be scrapping for just about every single point in virtually every game, we probably need to.

CM balance is a concern at the moment and I am increasingly finding myself watching through my fingers when Vaulks gets the ball under pressure in our half🫣
 
I was pretty annoyed last night with our inability to keep the ball. We’re talking simple passes being 5 yards wide, balls straight out of play, balls in the wrong channels. It looked like a very disjointed second half performance really, and I don’t believe that was due to Derby’s press.

McEachran coming on changed that, as it so often does. He has composure in the middle of the park.

Vaulks needs to be banned from passing backwards.

Idris and Rueben tried far too many fancy flicks and passes when what we needed was composure and time on the ball.

All in all, it shows me just how influential CamBran is for our team. For all of the quality we have, he is still the first name on the team sheet for me.
 
I do slightly worry about our lack of goal threat, and I don't think that has anything to do with whether it's Harris or Scarlett up front, it is to do with the supply and the slow speed of ball movement in midfield. In truth, it's the central midfield that was poorest last night.

Still, I guess it is a point, but we will never be promoted if we can't beat teams like Derby... ;)

Completely agree. For the past few games, when we’re on the front foot attacking; we look wobbly and tentative. El Miz made a few terrible passes on the counter as did Tyler last night, and these mistakes then snuff out our attacking threat rather than really capitalising and going for the jugular. I imagine it may be to do with tiredness, which is why I think we could’ve probably made the subs a bit earlier last night. But either way our passing has to be better.

I think sometimes we are far too reactive than proactive. I noticed Dale’s positioning was off after Sibley’s saved shot - if he’s further up in the field then he’s on the end of it to bang it into the goal, for example. Instead he picks up the ball and is ponderous, allows for derby to get numbers back, and its attack over. Small decisions like these letting us down.
 
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