Away Match Day Thread 22/02/25: Championship - WBA v OUFC

 
I don't disagree that it has been dross lately but as I pointed out, it was also dross under DB when you said the football was better. Nearly every game you cited under him was dross. You can't point out for example we had a chance against QPR as evidence it was better. We had three huge chances against Pompey last week so by your own perspective that must mean we played decently last week?

You are missing the point that Rowett has had a fully fit squad and new signings to improve us. Under Des when we had a fully fit squad we were beating Norwich, Preston, Stoke and drew with Burnley as well as playing well away against Coventry, Blackburn and Bristol city where we should of come away with something in all of them.

We have replaced a manager who was one of our own, who had a real connection with the fanbase and the local community and with a fully fit squad played some of the best football I've seen in years. Let's hope for the boards sake we stay up as the question will always be what if we had kept Des and backed him in January.
 
We made good noise until the goal, which deflated the fans and the players

Like others have said I just don’t know where the points are coming from at the moment

Really does feel like the end of Des’ time here at the moment
 
We were always going to be relying on other results this season. That is a given when you are relying on 3 teams being worse than us.
Not really.

We didn’t sign a striker when we should have that can play the lone striker role well & it is costing us.

We have flogged Leigh all season & he’s gone bang.

Bennett can’t cope with the pace at championship level.

Two things we should have done minimum in the window but the club thought we’d done enough.

We are going to find out the hard way.
 
You are missing the point that Rowett has had a fully fit squad and new signings to improve us. Under Des when we had a fully fit squad we were beating Norwich, Preston, Stoke and drew with Burnley as well as playing well away against Coventry, Blackburn and Bristol city where we should of come away with something in all of them.

We have replaced a manager who was one of our own, who had a real connection with the fanbase and the local community and with a fully fit squad played some of the best football I've seen in years. Let's hope for the boards sake we stay up as the question will always be what if we had kept Des and backed him in January.

I'm not missing the point. You are I'm afraid. You are moving the goal posts from your original point. Sure we can argue about reasons etc but your original point was that the football was better under Buckingham and the evidence simply is that is not the case. I was a huge Buckingham fan by the way and wanted him to stay.
 
We should be honest with ourselves and accept that we've had two good months this season - the first month under Des, and From Boxing Day to mid-January under Rowett. The rest of the time we've been what everyone outside of Oxford expected us to be......out of our depth. Especially going forwards.

Whether or not we can stay up this season is going to depend on whether or not Rowett can inspire us to one more good spell. And it doesn't even have to be a month....two or three weeks would be enough.
(alternatively, maybe none of the bottom 3/4 get their act together and we stay up with 42 points or something!)
 
I'm not missing the point. You are I'm afraid. You are moving the goal posts from your original point. Sure we can argue about reasons etc but your original point was that the football was better under Buckingham and the evidence simply is that is not the case. I was a huge Buckingham fan by the way and wanted him to stay.
The football was way better under Buckingham.

It’s not even close.
 
I'm not missing the point. You are I'm afraid. You are moving the goal posts from your original point. Sure we can argue about reasons etc but your original point was that the football was better under Buckingham and the evidence simply is that is not the case. I was a huge Buckingham fan by the way and wanted him to stay.

We will have to disagree , for me the games against Norwich, Preston , Stoke away at Blackburn, Bristol city and Coventry was far better football than any I've seen under Rowett.
 
The football was way better under Buckingham.

It’s not even close.
The football in Des's last ten games was pathetic, I'm afraid. I was at Sheffield United Miles out of our depth- far, far worse than today. Under Des, we were almost certainly going down, and probably with 25-30 points. Rowett will probably keep us up. Yes, the football is a bit of a grim watch, but this season, I don't care how bad it is as long as we stay up!
 
I think we will have to agree to disagree. As Tonyw points out above we have had to patches of good football this season. First month under Des and first three weeks under Gary. With Rowett of course improving our away record massively.
As @OX14 said above, our football in the games above were miles above anything I’ve seen us produce under rowett.

We had 5 shots today over 90 minutes? I’m sorry that’s absolutely pathetic.

We didn’t even give that a go today. We sat there and had our tummy tickled. They literally took the p**s.
 
The football in Des's last ten games was pathetic, I'm afraid. I was at Sheffield United Miles out of our depth- far, far worse than today. Under Des, we were almost certainly going down, and probably with 25-30 points. Rowett will probably keep us up. Yes, the football is a bit of a grim watch, but this season, I don't care how bad it is as long as we stay up!
Well if you know where the goals are coming to keep us up you must have a crystal ball.
 
Shocking performance and we simply cannot compete with any of the teams in the top half particularly away from home. This is completely unacceptable and the way we are currently playing is even worse than what we were doing under Des. We need a big shift in tactics and have to make some ballsy choices. I'd rather lose 3-2 trying than 1-0 and not even laying a glove on them.

Right now, we are probably the least effective team in the league and are being propped up by virtue of how miserable other teams are doing. We are prime contenders to slip into the zone if things don't change and we probably have the hardest fixtures to conclude the season with. I can't see where the next win will come.
 
Absolutely agree but it’s been the clubs choice to sign them. Things are very worrying at the moment. It’s been countless transfer windows since we signed a proper genuine centre forward of any quality and we need several of them of different types.

I so wish we’d be bolder and play two up top and recruit for that scenario, but we haven’t looked like doing so since I can’t remember.

Just got to hope we can get over the line with enough points to survive, but I can’t see where the next point or goal is coming from just now. The Bristol City game when we were 1-0 up against 10 men and failed to win even against 9 in the end, was the pivotal moment when things turned and we’ve lost confidence and the ability to do things right since then.
Goodwin was signed to be the proper genuine centre forward!! 🙄
 
My mate is a Coventry fan and he said when they went up the first year was solely about staying up and building from there. Finishing above the bottom three has been the aim all along in reality and at the moment we have a cushion but it won’t last forever.

Cardiff Vs Hull on Tuesday is a massive game. Saturday you then have Luton v Pompey and Boro vs Derby.

I think Derby will start to get cut a drift and if Pompey can beat Luton then I think the same will happen with them.
So you are genuinely simply hoping that there are 3 worse teams than us lol
 
As @OX14 said above, our football in the games above were miles above anything I’ve seen us produce under rowett.

We had 5 shots today over 90 minutes? I’m sorry that’s absolutely pathetic.

We didn’t even give that a go today. We sat there and had our tummy tickled. They literally took the p**s.
Right so according to him and you we last played well under Des in September. That was kinda my point. We hadn't played well under Des for months.
 
Right so according to him and you we last played well under Des in September. That was kinda my point. We hadn't played well under Des for months.
I didn’t say the right decision wasn’t made, they spend the money and they thought a change was needed.

I was pissed off at the time but it is what it is. It doesn’t change the fact we have been pathetic under rowett for 5 games now and not even against the best sides in the league.

We aren’t even going into games to try and attack. We are trying to nick games and shithouse results and we don’t have a solid enough side tactically for that & as such we are seeing what we are seeing.

The best football this season was under Des, it’s not even close. We’ve picked up a few more results but we ain’t laying a glove on teams now.

If it carries on like this we will finish 3rd bottom.
 
From what I see when I watch the most recent games is that certain players just can’t maintain the level, they play well and then just drop off. I don’t see how that is the manager’s fault really. I would say only Brown and Brannagan are the exception.
.. and Cummings though not an outfield player of course.
 
But we had alot of injuries in key areas and hadn't had a chance to bring in new players. You can't just ignore that fact.
I'm not. Rowett has also had players missing too at times (Nelson, Moore, Goodrham, Bradshaw, Long etc). The only time Placheta has played well this season was a period under Rowett as he was pants before he got injured when available to Buckingham.
 
Let's be honest most fans knew it would be tough to stay up .We came up via the play offs so you are always behind the game.We are at least with a chance of staying up with 3 decent results. At the moment wr don't know where they are coming from but hopefully from anywhere. Then we will have the same problem again next season ,to become a mid table championship team like Millwall ,QPR, even Bristol City who alot of our fans were saying they are only ever mid table are our fans stupid the gulf between league 1 and the championship really is leagues apart. Still hoping Rowett keeps us up and over a few years gets us in a solid place but my goodness there is so much work to do.
 
You are missing the point that Rowett has had a fully fit squad and new signings to improve us. Under Des when we had a fully fit squad we were beating Norwich, Preston, Stoke and drew with Burnley as well as playing well away against Coventry, Blackburn and Bristol city where we should of come away with something in all of them.

We have replaced a manager who was one of our own, who had a real connection with the fanbase and the local community and with a fully fit squad played some of the best football I've seen in years. Let's hope for the boards sake we stay up as the question will always be what if we had kept Des and backed him in January.
This is not true.

We miss Moore massively. Helik is no way near as good.

Rowett has relied too much on attacking down the wings, and for me, Placheta is not upto championship standard. Placheta is the sort of player that can grab the eye with a few flashes, but nothing remotely consistent.

And Rowett inherited Harris who is in no way a championship player - even though he "runs around a lot".

And as for Dembele...

We've been predictable, and easily found out. And yes, Rowett needs to change this, but we have no goal threat.
 
Felt sorry for Romeny. Only player to emerge with any real credit today.

Players look scared and appear to be wanting to play safe passes backwards, rather than risking losing the ball by playing forwards. Constantly ends up back with the centre halves or Cumming before being booted long.

We seem to be approaching every game these days with the mindset of hoping not lose, rather than hoping to win, but we aren’t good enough to do that. We can’t control games and aren’t strong enough to manage 90 minutes with that approach. That is what did for Des in the end, and we’re falling right back into it.

Even after Rowett’s good start I was saying we are playing for 21st place this season, and nothing of late has changed my mind. Survival is our gold medal this season. I still think we will do it, but it won’t be pretty and it will be down to other teams being awful.

The crotch on my favourite jeans gave out while I was getting back in the car at Hawthorns Station after the game, just to round everything off.

We go again next Saturday. With a new pair of slacks.
 
Just got back home not a bad day out in West Brom the vine pub was excellent and food onto the football atm we haven't got a goal in the team thier goalie could have put the deck chair out that will be the easiest game he will have and we are sleep walking into relegation some how Rowett needs to get a tune out of these and quick but don't know how he will do it though. I think we should have had a stone wall penalty for handball going to have to watch that back.
 
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