16/08/24 - Championship: Coventry City v OUFC - David Coote

[Scotchegg]

The best thing I heard today was on talkSPORT when they had Keith Hackett on and he had to quickly correct himself after calling him David c**t

"My apologies, I meant Dave C**t!"

 

[Bigdwoolly]

Feel a little sorry for him really. Obviously has a bit of a problem, but his mates or somebody stitches him up to the national press rather than help him out. All the positive words about mental health and support is just words when it comes down to it isn't it?

 

[Northstandboy]

We know what he did was wrong, but the this has come up is much worse and very worrying.

Lot's of male suicides, this will not help the cause.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

 

[Lost Marbles]

Feel a little sorry for him really. Obviously has a bit of a problem, but his mates or somebody stitches him up to the national press rather than help him out. All the positive words about mental health and support is just words when it comes down to it isn't it?

Certainly the tabloids don't give a f**k about anyone's mental health and never have done. I reckon many of the journalists at The Sun will be pretty well acquainted with white powder and rolled up banknotes.

 

[dickwalton1964]

Feel a little sorry for him really. Obviously has a bit of a problem, but his mates or somebody stitches him up to the national press rather than help him out. All the positive words about mental health and support is just words when it comes down to it isn't it?

You're joking aren't you ? People cannot keep using the mental health card to excuse themselves for misjudgements or misdemeanours - at that rate this country will be lawless with an excuse for everything. Absolutely brilliant for football that his mates stitched him, they should be applauded. What's the alternative ? To have drug fuelled officials overseeing the decision making at the very top of the game that we, the fans, travel the breadth and depth of the country to watch our team ? No thanks, Coote should be sacked immediately and never invited back in any shape or form. If he has mental health problems then let the relevant people deal with that, it isn't footballs responsibility or problem. There has to be cut off points for excuse makers in all walks of life, accountability has to kick in at some point and most - if not all - of what Coote says has nothing to do with mental health - F this, F that, the C word, he knows exactly what he's saying. As for the images of him taking cocaine, well what more is needed before he's booted out of the game for good ?

 

[Bigdwoolly]

Where have I said it's an excuse? Obviously he shouldn't be a referee again and perhaps they should start drug testing the refs.

My point is, his mates could have just told his employers, sent the evidence and Cootes could have been dealt with in private - ideally with the same outcome of him not being a ref. But instead they sold their story. I don't think the punishment - public humiliation, fits the crime here - but obviously you do.

If taking some cocaine and saying the f and c words are such a heinous crime, most football fans would be banned from the game themselves.

This bit from you is interesting "If he has mental health problems then let the relevant people deal with that, it isn't footballs responsibility or problem. " - is it possible football has contributed to mental health problems - I would say definitely. Therefore it is footballs problem, unless you just think any mental health problems in football should just be ignored and dealt with elsewhere

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

My point is, his mates could have just told his employers, sent the evidence and Cootes could have been dealt with in private

Or, if they were true ‘mates’ they could have said you’re getting clean (checking yourself into rehab or whatever it takes) and if you don’t we’ll send this video to your employers

 

[dickwalton1964]

Where have I said it's an excuse? Obviously he shouldn't be a referee again and perhaps they should start drug testing the refs.

My point is, his mates could have just told his employers, sent the evidence and Cootes could have been dealt with in private - ideally with the same outcome of him not being a ref. But instead they sold their story. I don't think the punishment - public humiliation, fits the crime here - but obviously you do.

If taking some cocaine and saying the f and c words are such a heinous crime, most football fans would be banned from the game themselves.

This bit from you is interesting "If he has mental health problems then let the relevant people deal with that, it isn't footballs responsibility or problem. " - is it possible football has contributed to mental health problems - I would say definitely. Therefore it is footballs problem, unless you just think any mental health problems in football should just be ignored and dealt with elsewhere

In context, yes I do think taking cocaine by the man deemed to be 'in charge' of high profile football matches and referring to the manager of one of those teams he's officiating as a c*** is 'heinous'.

 

[Bigdwoolly]

In context, yes I do think taking cocaine by the man deemed to be 'in charge' of high profile football matches and referring to the manager of one of those teams he's officiating as a c*** is 'heinous'.

Will have to agree to disagree on that one (especially as I don't think anyone is suggesting he was on cocaine during games).

I don't think refs have to like everyone to be able to ref a game. Would be a bit weird if they did.

I mean, if you were on the end of this, you probably would think he was a bit of a c*** (different ref, I know)

 

[dickwalton1964]

Or, if they were true ‘mates’ they could have said you’re getting clean (checking yourself into rehab or whatever it takes) and if you don’t we’ll send this video to your employers

Or, if they were true ‘mates’ they could have said you’re getting clean (checking yourself into rehab or whatever it takes) and if you don’t we’ll send this video to your employers

The true mates bit is irrelevant. Why should it be covered up rather than exposed? As a fan you want to feel the game is clean and while it is impossible for something as partisan to be without it's indiscretions I'm all for exposing those in the wrong rather than brushing it under the carpet and trying to forget about it.

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

The true mates bit is irrelevant. Why should it be covered up rather than exposed? As a fan you want to feel the game is clean and while it is impossible for something as partisan to be without it's indiscretions I'm all for exposing those in the wrong rather than brushing it under the carpet and trying to forget about it.

It’s not irrelevant, the post I was quoting was saying what his ‘mates’ could or should have done, and I was just pointing out that, to a close or true friend then ‘cleaning up the game’ should be secondary to your friend’s health and wellbeing.

Or if he was your good mate would you still have just sent it immediately to his employers without a second thought?

 

[maidenheadox]

You're joking aren't you ? People cannot keep using the mental health card to excuse themselves for misjudgements or misdemeanours - at that rate this country will be lawless with an excuse for everything. Absolutely brilliant for football that his mates stitched him, they should be applauded. What's the alternative ? To have drug fuelled officials overseeing the decision making at the very top of the game that we, the fans, travel the breadth and depth of the country to watch our team ? No thanks, Coote should be sacked immediately and never invited back in any shape or form. If he has mental health problems then let the relevant people deal with that, it isn't footballs responsibility or problem. There has to be cut off points for excuse makers in all walks of life, accountability has to kick in at some point and most - if not all - of what Coote says has nothing to do with mental health - F this, F that, the C word, he knows exactly what he's saying. As for the images of him taking cocaine, well what more is needed before he's booted out of the game for good ?

Jesus I wouldn't want to be mates with you Dick.

On Mr Coote himself, I actually have no problem if in his spare time he wants to do the odd line of coke and express some private opinions about some of the people he has to work with. If you swap the coke for beer or wine then pretty much everybody does it, and I don't think there's been any suggestion that he wasn't doing his job at the required level. Obviously tragic for him that it's made it into the public domain. Still with friends like Dick, who needs enemies?

 

[dickwalton1964]

Jesus I wouldn't want to be mates with you Dick.

On Mr Coote himself, I actually have no problem if in his spare time he wants to do the odd line of coke and express some private opinions about some of the people he has to work with. If you swap the coke for beer or wine then pretty much everybody does it, and I don't think there's been any suggestion that he wasn't doing his job at the required level. Obviously tragic for him that it's made it into the public domain. Still with friends like Dick, who needs enemies?

Well, the latest was that he was attempting to organise a drugs party by booking a Travel Lodge venue half an hour before kick off when he was on fourth official duty for the Spurs v Man City cup game last month and was then trying to coordinate the invites at half time in that match. If you can't see anything alarming in that then God help us.

I guess you might say the half hour prior to kick off and again at half time was, indeed, his spare time as he had effectively not started - or restarted - work yet. Lets say Bolton beat us at Wembley and it came out that one of the officials for that match had been doing lines of coke pre match (same day, night before, whatever) and called Des Buckingham a **** - you'd have no problem with it?

 

[Bigdwoolly]

Well, the latest was that he was attempting to organise a drugs party by booking a Travel Lodge venue half an hour before kick off when he was on fourth official duty for the Spurs v Man City cup game last month and was then trying to coordinate the invites at half time in that match. If you can't see anything alarming in that then God help us.

It's definitely ill-advised and unprofessional, but hardly crime of the century. He's only a ref (or actually being 4th official) for a football match, not driving a school bus or flying an aeroplane.

 

[dickwalton1964]

It's definitely ill-advised and unprofessional, but hardly crime of the century. He's only a ref (or actually being 4th official) for a football match, not driving a school bus or flying an aeroplane.

Lets see what the authorities will say, my guess is they'll align more with my view. If no real crime has been committed, as you say, what do you think is the reasoning behind removing him from all fixtures - here and abroad ? It's only taking cocaine, why aren't they just seeing it like you and letting him continue to referee ?

 

[Bigdwoolly]

Lets see what the authorities will say, my guess is they'll align more with my view. If no real crime has been committed, as you say, what do you think is the reasoning behind removing him from all fixtures - here and abroad ? It's only taking cocaine, why aren't they just seeing it like you and letting him continue to referee ?

As I've said before, he shouldn't be a referee, I think everyone agrees on that. Whether he ever makes it back to be one in the future seems unlikely too.

My point was it didn't need to be a public humiliation - splashed across the front pages thanks to his friends, that's the bit that doesn't seem fair to me.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Well, the latest was that he was attempting to organise a drugs party by booking a Travel Lodge venue half an hour before kick off when he was on fourth official duty for the Spurs v Man City cup game last month and was then trying to coordinate the invites at half time in that match. If you can't see anything alarming in that then God help us.

I guess you might say the half hour prior to kick off and again at half time was, indeed, his spare time as he had effectively not started - or restarted - work yet. Lets say Bolton beat us at Wembley and it came out that one of the officials for that match had been doing lines of coke pre match (same day, night before, whatever) and called Des Buckingham a **** - you'd have no problem with it?

The latest news is from the Sun and we all know that they would never lie about anything would they!

He has been an idiot and I’d imagine he will, rightl, lose the chance to referee in this country again.

At this point though there is no need to carry on writing stories about him, whether they are true or false. What benefit does it have? Zero.

We all know you are ‘old school’ but mental health is a real issue these days and as more and more stories are written, the more chance that he will be in an even darker place than he probably already is.

 

[dickwalton1964]

The latest news is from the Sun and we all know that they would never lie about anything would they!

He has been an idiot and I’d imagine he will, rightl, lose the chance to referee in this country again.

At this point though there is no need to carry on writing stories about him, whether they are true or false. What benefit does it have? Zero.

We all know you are ‘old school’ but mental health is a real issue these days and as more and more stories are written, the more chance that he will be in an even darker place than he probably already is.

Totally unrealistic.

So you're saying just report it the once and leave it ? It isn't how the media work and it isn't how regular people behave in conversation. Should we just leave a wrong doing alone and not dig for more depth to the story ? I imagine there's a hell of a lot of football fans hoping he's got more to come yet in terms of stick. He probably cost us two points too, adding on 7 minutes at Coventry and now arrogantly saying we weren't a big enough fixture for him - to quote himself, arrogant c***.

Veering away from Coote, where do you draw the line in terms of mental health getting in the way of the 'crime' ? Is this not a ready made excuse for virtually anyone ? Take some of these horrific random killings we've seen on the streets of provincial towns in this country, the perpetrators are clearly mentally ill or deranged, what do we do with them ? Sit them down and find out about their mental state or take them off our streets and be of the opinion that they knew full well what they were doing when taking a machete to the head of an innocent passer by.

You're living in a world full of clouds and cuckoos.

 

[maidenheadox]

Well, the latest was that he was attempting to organise a drugs party by booking a Travel Lodge venue half an hour before kick off when he was on fourth official duty for the Spurs v Man City cup game last month and was then trying to coordinate the invites at half time in that match. If you can't see anything alarming in that then God help us.

I guess you might say the half hour prior to kick off and again at half time was, indeed, his spare time as he had effectively not started - or restarted - work yet. Lets say Bolton beat us at Wembley and it came out that one of the officials for that match had been doing lines of coke pre match (same day, night before, whatever) and called Des Buckingham a **** - you'd have no problem with it?

He was booking a hotel room half an hour before kick off? String him up!!

 

[90syeIlow]

If you're defending him, when he has a say in extremely large profile football matches and has cost us points this season (against coventry) by adding on 7 minutes when it was much less, then I'm sorry but I have no words.

Yes, lots of people do cocaine and talk rubbish with their friends, but that doesn't mean you need to lose all ounce of professionalism and respect when you're in that situation. The fact that he knew he was being video recorded while saying it shows that he really gives little fucks and that is incredibly worrying.