Ref Watch 09/04/25: Championship - OUFC v QPR - Elliot Bell

[Northstandboy]

How was Elliot Bell's performance?​

 

[bazzer9461]

One from and that’s for being here

 

[Vancouver Yellow]

Absolutely awful officiating tonight. So many WTF moments. Absolutely no control over the game tonight, especially in the second half.

 

[Northstandboy]

I must have known he was clueless when I set this to post!

 

[Sarge]

Elliott BellEND isnt it?, he was out of his fuckingdepth ALL game ( best hefucksoff back to non league IMO)- his South Stand assistant was pretty crap too- conned and shitnoused by QPR for most of the game, fell for every trick they pulled. Bottled red carding theirkeeper repeated 2nd Yellow card for time wasting . A 1 from me -for turning up

 

[buzzbuzzhun]

Poor lazy performance. Too many poor decisions. Was it really a corner for their first goal?

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Quite poor. No real control of the game, some very odd decisions

 

[carefreeoufc]

Poor decisions and the ‘occasion’ if you can call it that got the better of him. Did well with the injury time. 17 mins added on in total was bang on and more than other refs have given this season.

 

[SouthOxonOx]

The only thing he got right was the injury time. Other than that was not up to this standard. Someone has given him a six. Not sure how that can be.

 

[ECYellow]

Didn’t impact the result.

He allowed the time wasting to continue and should have clamped down earlier. It was pretty comical when their physio sat on the pitch during the second half to waste a bit more time.

It wasn’t the ref’s fault we lost the game.

 

[Northstandboy]

Made me laugh that through all the time wasting, he had his back to the shenanigans!

 

[Maurice Earp]

One of the most inept referees that I have had the (not) privilege of watching. Appeared to favour QPR with nearly all of the 50 - 50 balls and even when it was an Oxford ball he gave it the other way. His efforts regarding QPR's abysmal timewasting brought a new level of incompetence which I don't think will be ever beaten.

 

[carefreeoufc]

One of the most inept referees that I have had the (not) privilege of watching. Appeared to favour QPR with nearly all of the 50 - 50 balls and even when it was an Oxford ball he gave it the other way. His efforts regarding QPR's abysmal timewasting brought a new level of incompetence which I don't think will be ever beaten.

He gave 11 mins of added time in the second half. I agree with your sentiment on the 50:50s but I thought the time added on was fair.

 

[Oufccraig45]

I know he wasn't the reason for losing tonight it was the pathetic first half but boy did QPR take the p**s out of him with all the antics going on the game was to big for him and to big of a jump if the EFL fast track anymore like him next season will be a farce whatever league we play in

 

[Oxford84]

QPR player falls over the ref falls for it and gives them free kicks every time.
Totally missed the time wasting until its was too late with about 5 minutes left.
Gave corners that were goal kicks and goal kicks that were corners.
Reluctant to give us any free kicks.

 

[Yellowmania]

Also stopped the game in the second half when one of their players just sat on the ground, no head injury so why blow the whistle.

 

[sonofivan]

Edited in cold light of day -

Some terrible decisions (corner? Goal kick?)

But did at least add time for their time wasting. Would have liked to have seen more cards come out for this sooner.

 

[Cass63]

He added 6 minutes in the first half and 11in the second, he added a bit more as they scored in the extra time, that equates to about 18 minutes, he was shite but he didn’t really fall for their time wasting did he.
We beat ourselves tonight, they didn’t really need his help.

 

[Colin B]

For those saying that he dealt with the time wasting well by adding on the extra 17 minutes, that isn't really the point.

It was the fact that the QPR time wasting spoiled any chance of a flow to the game. Every time, especially in the second half, we built up a head of steam one of them would go down and the physio would come on and any impetus the game had was lost. That was a very clear tactic to stop us in the second half that he never got to grips with, and for all of our shit play in the first half which affected the result, I also believe this affected the result just as much as we had them rocking at 2-1 but were never allowed to push on for more than three or four minutes at a time before the game was stopped again.

Absolutely out of his depth.

 

[Northstand Grandad]

Also stopped the game in the second half when one of their players just sat on the ground, no head injury so why blow the whistle.

He done exactly the same when brown done same early in game

 

[Toe knee]

Absolute shocking referee, followed by his shocking linesmen.. missed blatant obvious decisions that everybody could see ,apart from them. He allowed QPR to take the p**s Useless zero out of ten..

 

[Manorlounger]

A very weak performance and lacking in any respect from the players. QPR showed absolute disdain for him when bringing a player off to be replaced. Both physio and player completely ignored his instructions to leave the field of play by the shortest route. Having been ignored, he then simply turned his back and walked away. Time wasting at every opportunity was left unpunished. He simply wasn't in control of the game.

 

[sonofivan]

A very weak performance and lacking in any respect from the players. QPR showed absolute disdain for him when bringing a player off to be replaced. Both physio and player completely ignored his instructions to leave the field of play by the shortest route. Having been ignored, he then simply turned his back and walked away. Time wasting at every opoortunity was left unpunished. He simply wasn't in control of the game.

Then booked the keeper a few minutes later to make up for it I thought

 

[Manorlounger]

Then booked the keeper a few minutes later to make up for it I thought

Too little too late. I can't stand this 'wait until the last moment to book the keeper' routine. Whenever did a keeper get a second yellow? What difference does it make. Simply underscores the lack of respect shown by the players. The lack of control by the officials.

 

[SSO]

Didn’t impact the result.

He allowed the time wasting to continue and should have clamped down earlier. It was pretty comical when their physio sat on the pitch during the second half to waste a bit more time.

It wasn’t the ref’s fault we lost the game.

I don’t disagree with you but QPR did everything that Bristol City, Stoke and Preston did to slow things up against us. There would have only been 6 or 7 minutes added on if he had got the cards out in the first place. Then you have a ref who means business and with us in the ascendancy in that second half we have a different game altogether.

We are near the top of the fair play league because we are just not nasty enough and as soon as a bit of passion comes out BANG Mills gets a yellow card which was for arguing with the linesman over a disputed throw in when the ref had already given us a free kick. Surely these guys are mic’ed up to each other and that booking could have been avoided.

Later a QPR player pulls Dembele’s shirt and rightfully gets booked. Maybe if the ref controlled the game properly that player may have had an earlier yellow for time wasting because they were all at it. The substitution when the guy goes down in the 6 yard box and walks to the halfway line with the trainer was also farcical. Of course the trainer was in on it too and I would hate to be a QPR player in need of urgent attention if that is the quickest that he can move. They absolutely played the ref and made him look a prick. He had the power which he chose to use by way of adding on 11 minutes instead of the 6 or 7 it would have been had he got them to cut out the antics in the first place.

Also first half QPR subs warming up and crossing over and nearby the area where Vaulks was preparing a long throw. That Kolli ran across him deliberately and another got very close at the point of release.

We simply are not nasty enough and so the narrative that we are little Oxford is even in the minds of the officials.

We didn’t deserve to win but we deserved a fair crack at being allowed to play our game and that ref destroyed that in the second half.

 

[SSO]

Too little too late. I can't stand this 'wait until the last moment to book the keeper' routine. Whenever did a keeper get a second yellow? What difference does it make. Simply underscores the lack of respect shown by the players. The lack of control by the officials.

I think what needs to happen is that the ref lets the first bad one go and then at the next stoppage in play goes over to the manager of that team and warns him that any more gamesmanship and he will dismiss the whole coaching staff from the bench. The players are being coached to go down in pairs to stop the game.

We have been on the end of this quite a few times this season and although we have seen the odd bit of this from a couple of our own players the cheating from teams playing us is on an industrial level.

 

[SSO]

He done exactly the same when brown done same early in game

To be fair he was watching Brown trying to move and saw he was in distress. He took several glances over and like we could hear the speedway I am pretty sure they heard that challenge over the other side of BL.

 

[Berliner]

Wasn't so much the decision making I had a problem with (yes, he did miss some things, I agree) but rather the complete lack of control over the game. He did try, but was roundly ignored...that's something any pro would pick up on and use to his advantage (for example, player goes down, physio comes on, player comes back on, goes as far as possible away from the tunnel, goes down again, physio comes over again, player ignores the ref and doesn't leave via top touchline, everything is ignored).

It is, however, something that probably will come with time.

 

[SSO]

Wasn't so much the decision making I had a problem with (yes, he did miss some things, I agree) but rather the complete lack of control over the game. He did try, but was roundly ignored...that's something any pro would pick up on and use to his advantage (for example, player goes down, physio comes on, player comes back on, goes as far as possible away from the tunnel, goes down again, physio comes over again, player ignores the ref and doesn't leave via top touchline, everything is ignored).

It is, however, something that probably will come with time.

True but those things go on at non league level too. I am disappointed at the standard of officiating this season and even more that we are treated as some sort of experiment. This was his 3rd game at this level this season. 10 at L2 level and 8 at L1 level. Not only that if you look at his L1 games he has officiated Birmingham once but no stellar games at that level. I doubt he gets another game this level this season.

We deserve better at this level. Not many games played last night and that was the best we could be given?

 

[Berliner]

True but those things go on at non league level too. I am disappointed at the standard of officiating this season and even more that we are treated as some sort of experiment. This was his 3rd game at this level this season. 10 at L2 level and 8 at L1 level. Not only that if you look at his L1 games he has officiated Birmingham once but no stellar games at that level. I doubt he gets another game this level this season.

We deserve better at this level. Not many games played last night and that was the best we could be given?

Yes, well fine. But PL and Championship refs aren't the product of a virgin birth at Stockley Park, they go through the ranks and are tested at the next level if their assessors believe they are ready (full in the knowledge that they will be put under different pressure and different playing levels). Sure, some will fail and not be deemed up to it, others won't. It's not about being an experiment if it's his third game either, an experiment would be throwing a non-league ref straight in without and L1 or L2 experience.

See Sam Barrott for example, he has virtually come up the leagues with us. Got tested in the Premier League a few weeks back, didn't have a great game by all accounts. But he is on the pathway for the next cohort of officials, as it should be.