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Away Match Day Thread 08/11/24 - Championship: Watford v OUFC

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BTW what a fantastic ground and club, loved the stadium, fans and location, it was a special night, shame we didn’t at least draw but I’m overall very happy with how we are doing this season, it’s a pleasure to watch our team especially at this level.

Before we left we popped into McDonalds whilst the traffic settled and got talking to a Watford fan, he couldn’t believe how well we backed our team and didn’t stop singing, he said we were a credit to our club, how nice - I nearly said we are sometimes as quiet as a mouse at the Kassam 😂 but thought better of it!
 
Cardiff and Luton both losing in the early games so we're staying 16th for at least another few hours. That helps the mood a bit.
Still 16th! Which just shows how incredibly tight this league is, and that there’s a lot of teams in the bottom half who don’t pick up many points. With the injured players back, we’ll still have a fighting chance to stay up.
 
No strikers in that 8 though. Our strikers - Harris, Scarlett and Goodwin - are all fit and available. That’s what I mean by ‘short’. Whatever we may have out we still appear to be creating chances that our strikers, notably Harris, are not taking. January can’t come quick enough in that respect.
Our strikers (Scarlett/Harris) have got 7 goals in 15 games, which is not incredible, but given they don't play together that's more or less one every other game. I don't think the major issue is with the strikers exactly. Next on the list are Tyler and Rodrigues with 2 each.
What we're lacking is goals from our wide forwards - admittedly none are currently fit, so the question is are we unlucky with those injuries or have we made a big mistake by signing a number of players who have had injury problems over the last few seasons? i.e. Phillips, Placheta, Edwards.
 
Without wanting to anger anyone who thinks stats are for losers, but actually on set pieces we've scored 3 goals (at least according to https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...TeamStatistics/England-Championship-2024-2025) which is more or less the same league position we're in, so there's no evidence there we're crap at set pieces.

Interestingly (or worryingly, as it means we're likely to concede a few soon) we're the best at defending set pieces in the whole league. None conceded so far.
 
Without wanting to anger anyone who thinks stats are for losers, but actually on set pieces we've scored 3 goals (at least according to https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...TeamStatistics/England-Championship-2024-2025) which is more or less the same league position we're in, so there's no evidence there we're crap at set pieces.

Interestingly (or worryingly, as it means we're likely to concede a few soon) we're the best at defending set pieces in the whole league. None conceded so far.
Traditionally small clubs try to make the most of their set pieces, as they don't get many chances from open play. It's frustrating that we can't at least challenge the defence with our deliveries.
 
If we’ve scored 3 goals from set pieces then we do occasionally challenge the defence.

Interesting that a lot of the players we were allegedly targeting went to QPR instead- where they are doing worse than us.
 
Interestingly (or worryingly, as it means we're likely to concede a few soon) we're the best at defending set pieces in the whole league. None conceded so far.
I've been thinking how well we've defended corners, free kicks and throw ins. Over the past few years we seen to have conceded regular and quite often soft goals from corners in particular, but this season we have been excellent and the quality of said corners and free kicks is much higher in the Championship (apart from ours seemingly).

The back 3, 4 or 5 have been dominant in the air, Cummings generally makes the right option to punch or palm the ball away and we have defended the posts and backed the keeper up. Sibley at Portsmouth for instance and an excellent header from under the bar by Brown on Friday.

Now, if we could improve our own delivery, we might create opportunities for the likes of Moore, Brown, Nelson, Long, Leigh and Kioso.
 
Without wanting to anger anyone who thinks stats are for losers, but actually on set pieces we've scored 3 goals (at least according to https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...TeamStatistics/England-Championship-2024-2025) which is more or less the same league position we're in, so there's no evidence there we're crap at set pieces.

Interestingly (or worryingly, as it means we're likely to concede a few soon) we're the best at defending set pieces in the whole league. None conceded so far.
Isn’t this a good example of statistics being meaningless without wider context though?

A team who have scored 3 set piece goals from the 5 set pieces they’ve had are potentially fantastic at set pieces. But another team who’ve also scored 3 set piece goals, but from the 300 set pieces they’ve had are potentially rubbish at them.
 
Isn’t this a good example of statistics being meaningless without wider context though?

A team who have scored 3 set piece goals from the 5 set pieces they’ve had are potentially fantastic at set pieces. But another team who’ve also scored 3 set piece goals, but from the 300 set pieces they’ve had are potentially rubbish at them.
I'm sure it's possible to get the total number of set pieces for each team if you really wanted to get into it, but if you don't (and I don't) the wider context is the total goals league table itself.

All things being equal, teams at the top score more goals, so will score more set piece goals. Therefore you'd expect the goals from set pieces table to be similar to the total number of goals league table. It's still quite a small sample size, but so far our league position in both goals league table (16th) and set piece goals league table (equal 14th) is similar, which means we're performing as you'd expect for set piece goals.

The big outliers are Derby, 10 goals from set pieces out of 19 goals overall.

Likewise defensively we've conceded 0 out of 17 from set pieces, making us the best in the league in terms of conceding from set pieces.
 
This league is brutal. If you make one mistake or don’t take a chance then you are punished. On the positives this is a big team with amazing home form, we have injuries but we played with real resilience. Hard lines boys but we are in this league for a reason and we need to keep working hard. @CaliforniaYellow - hope you had a good evening despite the result fella. Get on the train to Oxford and have a nice pint in a pub here. You’ve earned it.
Thanks for the shoutout - so kind! It was a great time. Worth it. Ended up being convinced at the pub on Friday to visit Oxford Sunday; what a city. Almost got hit twice by the sponsors of this forum!!

I feel very lucky to be among you all. I’ll be back soon!
 
Almost got hit twice by the sponsors of this forum!!
Typical Yanks, come over here and Jaywalk all over the place... :ROFLMAO:

Although if you had been clipped, you share something in common with OUFC legend Jim Magilton, who got knocked over by a taxi he thought was his, stepped out into the road believing it would slow down... it didn't...
 
Thanks for the shoutout - so kind! It was a great time. Worth it. Ended up being convinced at the pub on Friday to visit Oxford Sunday; what a city. Almost got hit twice by the sponsors of this forum!!

I feel very lucky to be among you all. I’ll be back soon!
Well if you enjoyed that you should see it when we win. Safe journey back and hear from you soon I hope.
 
Typical Yanks, come over here and Jaywalk all over the place... :ROFLMAO:

Although if you had been clipped, you share something in common with OUFC legend Jim Magilton, who got knocked over by a taxi he thought was his, stepped out into the road believing it would slow down... it didn't...

Outside Park End club if I remember rightly?
 
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