Away Match Day Thread 04/02/25: Championship - Burnley FC v OUFC

[Northstandboy]

 

[tonto]

Matos has been a big plus. We just need Dembele to turn his obvious talent into goals. Hoping to be convinced by Romeny but Im not sure GR rates him. Stick Helic up front!!

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Matos has been a big plus. We just need Dembele to turn his obvious talent into goals. Hoping to be convinced by Romeny but Im not sure GR rates him. Stick Helic up front!!

I’m with you on this, I’m hoping Romerey becomes on hell of a player for us but like you feel GR isn’t convinced
Look at the difference with Bradshaw he’s started twice.Cant help thinking that what GR sees of Romery in training isn’t good enough.
We shall see

 

[christenedinjericho]

I’m with you on this, I’m hoping Romerey becomes on hell of a player for us but like you feel GR isn’t convinced
Look at the difference with Bradshaw he’s started twice.Cant help thinking that what GR sees of Romery in training isn’t good enough.
We shall see

If it wasn't his (GR) signing then sometimes human nature can do some remarkable things to ones thinking.

Anyway, I believe we'll hear in the next day or so some really encouraging Romeny reports from GRrrrrr that he's nudging himself ever closer to the first eleven. So, he'll start on Tuesday!

COYY'S

 

[SteMerritt]

Maybe in a final against Sunderland but not against one of the two also rans who will make up the play offs, big gap between the top four and the rest.

Bolton and Peterborough thought that way last year...

 

[TeamOX]

Sam long has generally been good this season and has stepped up well to the demands of the championship.

So, when he has a poor game against Burnley away no less, why is it all guns blazing against him saying ‘he needs to be sold, not good enough etc’.

The same posters will then be calling him ‘one of our own’ during his next good performance.

I think it’s very important to remember he’s played with us in all the leagues, loves the club and, possibly most importantly, was exceptional in the playoffs (clearance off the line late at Peterborough).

 

[dickwalton1964]

I agree, it's not just the strikers who are falling short, it's all of our attacking players. No composure, poor decision making, and a worrying lack of quality.

Think maybe it's time to see what Romney can do from the start...

Couldn’t agree more. Not sure what some are seeing in Placheta lately. The odd 5-10 minutes here and there but ineffective in a lot of recent games. He’s either running into players or carelessly losing possession. Tyler not back up to speed yet, that’s probably understandable given his enforced lay off. Harris, Bradshaw and Romeny don’t look like they’ve got 8 goals between them from now to end of season.

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

I think it’s very important to remember he’s played with us in all the leagues, loves the club and, possibly most importantly, was exceptional in the playoffs (clearance off the line late at Peterborough).

Don’t forget that tackle on the Bolton winger in the first 20 seconds, he was their real threat and didn’t want to know after that.

 

[dickwalton1964]

Romeny is I hope gaining fitness and should get more minutes. It's really difficult to assess what he offers based on the few minutes he's been on the pitch so far. Bradshaw was very close to converting that early chance yesterday. I'm still hopeful that either or both will weigh in with some goals if (big if just now) they are presented with genuine chances. I don't want to sound Pollyanna-ish but surely there will be some improvement?

I take your point but Harris has been close and he’s rightly getting pelters for missing. Going ‘close’ all the time won’t keep you up.

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Couldn’t agree more. Not sure what some are seeing in Placheta lately. The odd 5-10 minutes here and there but ineffective in a lot of recent games. He’s either running into players or carelessly losing possession. Tyler not back up to speed yet, that’s probably understandable given his enforced lay off. Harris, Bradshaw and Romeny don’t look like they’ve got 8 goals between them from now to end of season.

I admit I’ve been giving Harris stick, but you are right that the players around him have to step up.
We all know that Harris’s game is about harrying and closing down players and not winning headers and challenging 6 feet five centre half’s.
So why persist in knocking the ball up to him.

Lately Vaulks in particular and Brannagan have been chipping the ball into space behind the full back, both Dembele and Placheta get to the ball but the end product is woeful.
Also Rodrigues needs to look at himself he gets into a good position, receives the ball but then loses it or misplaces a pass, just not good enough.

 

[holdsteady]

Bolton and Peterborough thought that way last year...

The gap in quality is bigger though, the top 4 are a way better than the rest of league including the other play off hopefuls. Could obviously happen but can you imagine the Blackburn team we played in the premier league, be lucky to get 10 points. Nice cash windfall though.

 

[Trevor L]

Couldn’t agree more. Not sure what some are seeing in Placheta lately. The odd 5-10 minutes here and there but ineffective in a lot of recent games. He’s either running into players or carelessly losing possession. Tyler not back up to speed yet, that’s probably understandable given his enforced lay off. Harris, Bradshaw and Romeny don’t look like they’ve got 8 goals between them from now to end of season.

Placheta's not perfect, but he has real pace and I always feel when he gets the ball something good may happen. I don't get that feeling with Dembele, he doesn't play as though it's a team game from what I've seen. If you've read football history, in the first years of the game well over 100 years ago passing the ball was anathema, he would have fitted right in!

 

[Village-Yellow]

Sam didn’t look 100% fit last night and was treading water before halftime. Burnley craftily exploited the gap between him and the flying Pole and we were all at sea down the right flank. Matters picked up after the break though.

Burnley have great players all over the pitch and are tactically shrewd. But there’s still something meh about them, maybe it’s a lack of ruthless streak. I could see them cocking up infhe playoffs.

Was at the Cov game last night and Leeds ripped Cov a new one in the first half. Although they did demonstrate the same skills as Burnley in front of goal, they still seemed a huge step above.

Leeds go up followed by Sheff Utd. I just reckon Wilder has the nous to get them up over Burnley and Sunderland.

 

[90syeIlow]

I think it’s very important to remember he’s played with us in all the leagues, loves the club and, possibly most importantly, was exceptional in the playoffs (clearance off the line late at Peterborough).

Exactly. Without him we wouldn’t even be in the championship which makes this ‘get rid of him mentality’ even more bizarre

 

[uptheus]

I don't disagree that we are not getting enough goals from our strikers. But we're also struggling to create enough, and we do need to look at strengthening across the front of the team.

But it's one thing knowing that and another fixing it. We are still in the very early days of being a Championship team. It's not just working within financial limitations but also convincing those that we're looking to sign that they're not going to be playing in league one 6 months into their Oxford careers. I think we've made some decent signings but it will be the summer where we really take it up a notch.

I don't believe anyone at the club is complacent, despite apparent whispers. But if we have enough to get us through the next 15 games then we're better placed to strengthen again than if we'd panic bought now and needed to offload the same players in a few months.

I think it would help if our wide players deliver the ball into the box/have an end product.

Placheta scares defenders with his pace, but apart from the screamer against Cardiff (I think) his end product needs improving e.g. actually finding a player rather than being hell bent on getting it in his left foot on the edge of the box to try a replicate this goal. Re; end product, Dembele etc needs to do the same. Also hope Goodrham can return to form pre red card incident!

 

[TobyDavis34]

I think it would help if our wide players deliver the ball into the box/have an end product.

Placheta scares defenders with his pace, but apart from the screamer against Cardiff (I think) his end product needs improving e.g. actually finding a player rather than being hell bent on getting it in his left foot on the edge of the box to try a replicate this goal. Re; end product, Dembele etc needs to do the same. Also hope Goodrham can return to form pre red card incident!

Agreed with Goodrham. He had one of his quietest games I can remember. Absolutely anonymous!

I thought he would be the half time change to be honest, and he didn’t do much better moved into the 10 role

 

[Eric Blair]

I think it’s very important to remember he’s played with us in all the leagues, loves the club and, possibly most importantly, was exceptional in the playoffs (clearance off the line late at Peterborough).

I still relive that in slow motion in my panicked moments

 

[BicesterU]

I have done the exact same thing Scotchers, I know where to expect the points to come from, and where to expect them to not come from.

However, regardless of who we're playing, whether they're top, middle or bottom of the table, our strikers aren't scoring, they don't score, and that's a problem. That's not negativity, it's a fact.

Hard work is all well and good, pressing is all well and good, holding the ball up is all well and good. But we need our strikers to start contributing goals, because if our defenders stop scoring so regularly, which they very likely will, where do the equivalent amount of goals come from?

We're all very happy with the way things are currently going, but it is an obvious issue, and it's not being negative to simply express concern about it.

Things that are all well and good:
Hard work
Pressing
Holding the ball up

Things that are not all well and good:
Goals being scored by players who are not strikers

Can I suggest we all agree that the concerns of the 'strikers should be scoring the vast majority of our goals' gang have been duly noted, and that if we fall apart because of this in the last 20 games of the season, we will all kneel before their remarkable foresight?

 

[TobyDavis34]

Things that are all well and good:
Hard work
Pressing
Holding the ball up

Things that are not all well and good:
Goals being scored by players who are not strikers

Can I suggest we all agree that the concerns of the 'strikers should be scoring the vast majority of our goals' gang have been duly noted, and that if we fall apart because of this in the last 20 games of the season, we will all kneel before their remarkable foresight?

They're forming a cult, let them waffle their way to oblivion whilst we watch OUFC manage a respectable 18th in the league at the end of the season in our first season back in the championship, as the normal group.

They'll soon down tools about it.

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Things that are all well and good:
Hard work
Pressing
Holding the ball up

Things that are not all well and good:
Goals being scored by players who are not strikers

Can I suggest we all agree that the concerns of the 'strikers should be scoring the vast majority of our goals' gang have been duly noted, and that if we fall apart because of this in the last 20 games of the season, we will all kneel before their remarkable foresight?

Well as you put it this way, we can only agree ,as fans.

However where it matters in the incoming column we see that Burnley who have a similar problem with their strikers scoring goals and did something about it. We haven’t got Burnley’s money but the proof in the pudding will be whether Bradshaw and Romeny was the best use of the money we had available,or should that money have gone on one better striker for that same amount of money, whilst keeping Scarlett

 

[BicesterU]

Do you know what else Burnley have that we don't? Recent forays into the richest league in the world, and tens of millions in parachute payments. You're comparing apples with traffic cones.

I'd be genuinely intrigued to know what would demonstrate Bradshaw and Romeny proving to be 'the best use of money'.

If it's just straight up goals that some people are saying our strikers simply *have* to contribute, would it be good business if they scored 12-15 goals between them, but we went down?

And, vice versa, how about if they only score half a dozen between them, but we stay up?

 

[holdsteady]

I think the lack of glamour around Burnley has led people to ignore the fact that Burnley have been the most succesful of the teams currently in the championship over the last decade, they have spent 8 of the last 12 seasons (including this one) in the prem, the 3 full championship seasons saw them promoted as Champions twice and runner up once, they currently sit third having a record for not conceding, and have only lost 15 times in the championship in those 12 years. Turf Moor is a very hard place to go, no one goes there and scores a lot of goals at championship level.

 

[Mad Dog]

They're forming a cult, let them waffle their way to oblivion whilst we watch OUFC manage a respectable 18th in the league at the end of the season in our first season back in the championship, as the normal group.

They'll soon down tools about it.

Getting shade off some teenage Mr T wannabe

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Do you know what else Burnley have that we don't? Recent forays into the richest league in the world, and tens of millions in parachute payments. You're comparing apples with traffic cones.

I'd be genuinely intrigued to know what would demonstrate Bradshaw and Romeny proving to be 'the best use of money'.

If it's just straight up goals that some people are saying our strikers simply *have* to contribute, would it be good business if they scored 12-15 goals between them, but we went down?

And, vice versa, how about if they only score half a dozen between them, but we stay up?

I know you can’t compare Burnley with us and they have a much wider pool to dip into.
My point is that with the available money they have,they brought in a top class striker.
We had money available to buy/loan a decent forward, we have not done that

For what’s it’s worth Bradshaw and Romeny will score no goals between them and doubt Harris will either.

But we shall see

 

[BicesterU]

I know you can’t compare Burnley with us and they have a much wider pool to dip into.
My point is that with the available money they have,they brought in a top class striker.
We had money available to buy/loan a decent forward, we have not done that

For what’s it’s worth Bradshaw and Romeny will score no goals between them and doubt Harris will either.

But we shall see

Ok, great - we have a marker now: if Romeny and Bradshaw score more than one goal between them, you'll class them as successful signings.

You say that we haven't bought or loaned a successful striker. How can you possibly say that with a straight face when they've barely played two games between them? It's knee-jerk negativity.

And this 'we shall see...' stuff is exactly the sort of thing someone says when they have to keep moving the goalposts so that can claim they were right all along.

 

[TobyDavis34]

View attachment 25247Getting shade off some teenage Mr T wannabe

I'm 33

I'll 100% take the Mr T insult, that's a good one!

 

[notThisWayButThat]

Slept on this for a few days, we lost to a single own goal against a team looking to be in the prem. Not all bad.

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Ok, great - we have a marker now: if Romeny and Bradshaw score more than one goal between them, you'll class them as successful signings.

You say that we haven't bought or loaned a successful striker. How can you possibly say that with a straight face when they've barely played two games between them? It's knee-jerk negativity.

And this 'we shall see...' stuff is exactly the sort of thing someone says when they have to keep moving the goalposts so that can claim they were right all along.

No I will say it here and now
Romeny not good enough and feel that is a signing meant for overseas fans
Bradshaw better than Harris but doesn’t look like scoring

 

[PottersRightBoot]

No I will say it here and now
Romeny not good enough and feel that is a signing meant for overseas fans
Bradshaw better than Harris but doesn’t look like scoring

And you’re basing that on what , 20 minutes in 2 games? You’re a very impatient man.

 

[Wallop]

And you’re basing that on what , 20 minutes in 2 games? You’re a very impatient man.

And 20 minutes in which he hit the bar after making the chance for himself from nothing which is more than our other forward players have done recently.

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

And you’re basing that on what , 20 minutes in 2 games? You’re a very impatient man.

I’m sure the Romeny deal was happening anyway, before GR arrived.
If he was all that GR would have started him by now, these players train day in day out. Helik come in 24 hours after signing and replaces Sam Long at centre back. So GR doesn’t mess about, same with Matos.
Bradshaw similar to Harris but not the answer to what we need.
Based my opinion that Harris was not a natural finisher after one game and he scored v Exeter