Away Match Build-Up 01/10/24 - Championship: Luton Town v OUFC

[Northstandboy]

vs

Match Referee: James Bell - Stats
Kenilworth Road
Tuesday 1st Oct 2024 @ 1945​

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

 

[foghorn]

LTFC: "Midfield very, very open and have struggled to defend" - interesting.
OUFC: "Must-win" -

 

[Mad Dog]

Great team performance yesterday against a side who were always gonna have a lot of the ball.

But on Tuesday, against a struggling Luton, we should be going for the win in my opinion.

Goodrham is obviously good out wide, and has scored some lovely goals after cutting inside from wide positions, but I think he’s so much better playing centrally, as his performances towards the end of last season showed, he does so much skilful, creative, neat and tidy work, and isn’t afraid to hold onto the ball, and I think he was a lot more effective once he moved into central midfield yesterday as well.

With Goodrham playing centrally, it would allow for Dale on the wing, who might not be the same sort of attacking winger as Dembele or Edwards, but he’s a very hard working industrious wide player, who uses the ball well, which is just what we’ll need, particularly when playing away.

Josh has to come back in if he’s fit, as he’s been playing so well and controlling the midfield in games, and his experience and passing abilities will be important if we wanna get our creative attacking players on the ball.

You’d also have to think Leigh will return at LB, for a game when we’ll surely be looking to have plenty of the ball and attack.

Luton are struggling at the moment and leaking goals, so we need to attack this game, and try to add another three points on the board.

COME ON YOU YELLOWS!!

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

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Great team performance yesterday against a side who were always gonna have a lot of the ball.

But on Tuesday, against a struggling Luton, we should be going for the win in my opinion.

Goodrham is obviously good out wide, and has scored some lovely goals after cutting inside from wide positions, but I think he’s so much better playing centrally, as his performances towards the end of last season showed, he does so much skilful, creative, neat and tidy work, and isn’t afraid to hold onto the ball, and I think he was a lot more effective once he moved into central midfield yesterday as well.

With Goodrham playing centrally, it would allow for Dale on the wing, who might not be the same sort of attacking winger as Dembele or Edwards, but he’s a very hard working industrious wide player, who uses the ball well, which is just what we’ll need, particularly when playing away.

Josh has to come back in if he’s fit, as he’s been playing so well and controlling the midfield in games, and his experience and passing abilities will be important if we wanna get our creative attacking players on the ball.

You’d also have to think Leigh will return at LB, for a game when we’ll surely be looking to have plenty of the ball and attack.

Luton are struggling at the moment and leaking goals, so we need to attack this game, and try to add another three points on the board.

COME ON YOU YELLOWS!!

Very harsh on El Mizouni. Can't see Des dropping him.

 

[West Oxon U’s]

PLAYED FOR BOTH

There have been dozens and dozens of players who have played for both the U’s and the Hatters and includes Peter Kioso,
Shandon Baptiste, Carlton Morris, Matt Ingram, Danny Hylton, Johnny Mullins, Paul McLaren, Steve Foster, Alan Judge, Mark Stein.
Chris Willmott, John Dreyer, Elliot Lee, Tommy Craddock, Darren Patterson, Chris Allen and Steve Basham.

 

[West Oxon U’s]

 

[West Oxon U’s]

REF WATCH

Sheffield based James Bell is the man in the middle at Kenilworth Road tomorrow night. He refereed his first Champ. match in August 2022.

Sheffield Wednesday fanatic Bell, refereed 26 matches last season issuing 106 yellow cards and five reds. In six matches this season, he has already booked 31 players and dismissed three. He took charge of the Leeds v Burnley game in August where eight players saw yellow and Burnley full back Bashir Humphreys saw red.

His last U’s fixture was the 2-3 defeat to Wigan on December 18th 2021 where seven players were cautioned. His last Luton game was their 0-1 Carabao Cup defeat at Exeter in September 2023. It’s fair to say that James Bell likes his cards.

 

[Sarge]

Please post on the MDT: https://yellowsforum.co.uk/threads/01-10-24-championship-luton-town-v-oufc.11365/

I didt have permission to post on the page the link takes me to ( yesterday)- and this build up thread was the same (yesterday)? - It appears I do have permission today

 

[Sarge]

feeling very confident that with a sold out away end backing Des n the boys all the way, this will be our first away points of the season , a hard won, deserved 1-2 win Harris is overdue , reckon he'll get them both

 

[Leysboy]

I’d like to see us attack this game right from the off. There is definitely a good chance to come away with maximum points. Luton have a terrible amount of players out through injury. So let’s give it a bloody good go.

 

[unification]

feeling very confident that with a sold out away end backing Des n the boys all the way, this will be our first away points of the season , a hard won, deserved 1-2 win Harris is overdue , reckon he'll get them both

We haven’t won a league fixture at Kenwilworth Road since 1987 so we are certainly due something there. An EFL Trophy win (the Marvin Johnson screamer one) and a League Cup tie 30 years ago are our only wins there and we’ve played them a lot.

I’d be hopeful of at least a point since Luton seem to be struggling to find their rhythm since being relegated last season. It’s a good time to play them perhaps.

 

[TD_Yellow]

Is there a pre-match away pub lined up? I can't see there being quite the animosity of the conference years so hopefully no police escort from the station straight to the ground?

 

[Symp59]

Every game is tough ,Luton did pretty well last year in the Premier league so I would take another draw now .It's the away firm that's going to make or break our year so we deserve on the games we have played some points let's hope tomorrow is the first of I think 18 points we are going to need from the away games to stay up.

 

[BicesterU]

I was thinking before the weekend that 3/4 points out of Burnley, Luton and Pompey would be a good effort, and Saturday's result hasn't changed my mind too much.

But I'm going to be greedy and go for a draw tomorrow and our first win on the road on Saturday. We've got an extra 24 hours recovery time over Portsmouth, and they've got more travel to factor in too.

 

[brassmonkey]

Luton outlaws i'snt as crazy as I remembered it last time we were in the same division, disappointing!

Still found the weekly opposition quote to inspire us #teamslikeoxford

"It gives me a warm feeling to know that rag tag outfits like Oxford can still get so far up the leagues, even if it is a flash in the pan"

 

[EastStandKieran]

I think this is going to be typical Oxford we got a very good result against Burnley I have a feeling we will win against Luton I watched their game on Friday and they looked poor I think they’ve got a few injuries to key players( I hope they are still injured tomorrow ) so I think 1-2 we get a late winner . NOW on to typical Oxford we will be buzzing getting 4 points against Burnley and Luton only to go to Pompey on Saturday and lose

Anyway 1-2 Harris and Brown

 

[Mad Dog]

Very harsh on El Mizouni. Can't see Des dropping him.

It's nothing against El Mizouni, he's done very well since coming into the side, but let's not forget, by his own admission, he's a more defensive minded midfielder, who Des is trying to turn into a more forward thinking midfielder, which is great, and he's doing well, but I feel we're missing a bit of the creativity from central midfield that Tyler gives us when he plays there.

I've said it ever since he broke into the first team, that although he's a good option out wide, I genuinely believe Tyler's future lies more as an attacking central midfielder, a bit like Paul Scholes was in his prime, he's a clever little passer of the ball from central positions, and can run with the ball, score from distance, ghost into the box, play through balls, and make runs to get on the end of through balls himself. And he's a clever little finisher.

Tyler's also very good at operating in the space between the lines, and in pockets of space, where he's not afraid to hold onto the ball until a forward pass becomes available, or dribble through the centre of the pitch, which helps us keep the ball in the middle of the pitch, and on the edge of opposition box, and create from central positions as well, either with through balls, one two's, or Tyler himself breaking through.

Mizouni is also very good at holding onto the ball, but it's more for maintaining possession, whereas I just feel we'd get a bit more forward thinking creativity from Tyler, as he's a naturally more attack minded player.

Playing away from home, we'll also need the industrious work rate and defensive support that Dale offers out wide, and I feel starting with Dale out wide, with Tyler in the middle, might enable us to get control of the midfield in such a way that we can get a goal or two, then bring on the likes of Mizouni and Vaulks, in place of players like Rodrigues and Tyler, to allow us to continue to then control the midfield, in a different way and see the game out.

It's not about dropping anyone, but more about utilising the options we have, because at this level, each game will require different approaches and game plans, and with the options we have available in the squad, we're in a fantastic position to take advantage of the players at our disposal, to play different ways, whilst also not becoming predictable with how we'll set up.

Horses for course and that ennit...

 

[DRFC FAN]

Hi guys just a little warning about your ref this week aganst Luton. Ive noticed the pic and post of Mr Bell and saying he likes his cards. Im a Doncaster fan . We had him on Saturday. Chesterfield thumped us 3 nil at home. They deserved to beat us. They were better than us but here goes.

The ref lost control early doors. The linos were guessing at offsides which infuriated fans, players and coaching staff. We had a player sent off 1st 5 mins of the 2nd half for a 2nd yellow. Kicked the ball into the net after the flag went up for offside. Ill say it was a late flag and the offside was very very dubious. His first yellow was given walking back to the changing rooms at HT for talking to the ref.

Our management team didn't know of any booking. He then missed a few tackles from Chesterfield players which were late and not booked. He then gave them a penalty which was also borderline when our players arm was still in a natural position. He then booked our assistant manager lol. Im starting to laugh now. I actually hope he had a bet on cos surely he cant be this bad.

He then sent off another of our players for rubbing heads with their player in their pen area. Chessie player went down like he d been 3 rounds with Mike Tyson. Lino guessed from 60 yards away. Ref not a clue from half way line and out popped the red. Good luck guys. Hope he s on your side against Luton. Try googling his name. Other clubs have some stories on Mr Bell as well

 

[Wallop]

Hi guys just a little warning about your ref this week aganst Luton. Ive noticed the pic and post of Mr Bell and saying he likes his cards. Im a Doncaster fan . We had him on Saturday. Chesterfield thumped us 3 nil at home. They deserved to beat us. They were better than us but here goes. The ref lost control early doors. The linos were guessing at offsides which infuriated fans, players and coaching staff. We had a player sent off 1st 5 mins of the 2nd half for a 2nd yellow. Kicked the ball into the net after the flag went up for offside. I’ll say it was a late flag and the offside was very very dubious. His first yellow was given walking back to the changing rooms at HT for talking to the ref. Our management team didnt know of any booking. He then missed a few tackles from Chesterfield players which were late and not booked. He then gave them a penalty which was also borderline when our players arm was still in a natural position. He then booked our assistant manager lol. Im starting to laugh now. I actually hope he had a bet on cos surely he cant be this bad. He then sent off another of our players for rubbing heads with their player in their pen area. Chessie player went down like he d been 3 rounds with Mike Tyson. Lino guessed from 60 yards away. Ref not a clue from half way line and out popped the red. Good luck guys. Hope he s on your side against Luton. Try googling his name. Other clubs have some stories on Mr Bell as well

Re the second yellow - very, very stupid from your player who looked around way after the whistle had been blown, saw the offside flag but still kicked the ball away on a booking - what a doughnut.

Also looked a pen to me.

Second red given for an off the ball incident spotted by the Assistant ref, great observation and officials teamwork.

Well done the ref and his team.

Doncaster Rovers 0-3 Chesterfield | League Two highlights

Highlights of the Sky Bet League Two match between Doncaster Rovers and Chesterfield.

www.skysports.com

 

[Hackney Jack]

Is there a pre-match away pub lined up? I can't see there being quite the animosity of the conference years so hopefully no police escort from the station straight to the ground?

I'd assume not, although there is always an edge with us and them. Last time I went, there were two double decker buses outside the train station and I got put on one with no choice and we were driven around for an hour until exactly 3 pm then dumped at the ground. It was packed on both buses, all filmed etc, seemed way ott.

 

[Glyn3208]

How the hell did the referee not order a retake of the penalty. The Chesterfield player ran into the box in front of the ref and was nearly level with the penalty spot when the other guy struck the ball and scored.

 

[ExclusiveOxnews]

It's nothing against El Mizouni, he's done very well since coming into the side, but let's not forget, by his own admission, he's a more defensive minded midfielder, who Des is trying to turn into a more forward thinking midfielder, which is great, and he's doing well, but I feel we're missing a bit of the creativity from central midfield that Tyler gives us when he plays there.

I've said it ever since he broke into the first team, that although he's a good option out wide, I genuinely believe Tyler's future lies more as an attacking central midfielder, a bit like Paul Scholes was in his prime, he's a clever little passer of the ball from central positions, and can run with the ball, score from distance, ghost into the box, play through balls, and make runs to get on the end of through balls himself. And he's a clever little finisher.

Tyler's also very good at operating in the space between the lines, and in pockets of space, where he's not afraid to hold onto the ball until a forward pass becomes available, or dribble through the centre of the pitch, which helps us keep the ball in the middle of the pitch, and on the edge of opposition box, and create from central positions as well, either with through balls, one two's, or Tyler himself breaking through.

Mizouni is also very good at holding onto the ball, but it's more for maintaining possession, whereas I just feel we'd get a bit more forward thinking creativity from Tyler, as he's a naturally more attack minded player.

Playing away from home, we'll also need the industrious work rate and defensive support that Dale offers out wide, and I feel starting with Dale out wide, with Tyler in the middle, might enable us to get control of the midfield in such a way that we can get a goal or two, then bring on the likes of Mizouni and Vaulks, in place of players like Rodrigues and Tyler, to allow us to continue to then control the midfield, in a different way and see the game out.

It's not about dropping anyone, but more about utilising the options we have, because at this level, each game will require different approaches and game plans, and with the options we have available in the squad, we're in a fantastic position to take advantage of the players at our disposal, to play different ways, whilst also not becoming predictable with how we'll set up.

Horses for course and that ennit...

Agree with alot of this. I'm not totally convinced by Dale at Champ level i have to say (anyone see when he did 3 stepovers Saturday and got him nowhere...looked a little lower league if I'm honest) but he gives industry and defensive stability and he's never let us down, so I'd probably do the same thing and give El Miz a rest and bring him back for Pompey.
But Des is cleverer than me, so he'll probably pick Sam Long as a false 9 and he'll run the show and bag a brace

 

[Glyn3208]

How the hell did the referee not order a retake of the penalty. The Chesterfield player ran into the box in front of the ref and was nearly level with the penalty spot when the other guy struck the ball and scored.

 

[Yellow Mustard]

I like the idea of-

Vaulks / El Limouszini / Goodrham

Dale / Harris / Dembele

As a set up. Lots of industry, energy and creativity balanced with a bit of bite in Vaulks, Harris and Dale who like to get stuck in. Big physical back 4 behind them. Hostile ground against a recent ex Prem team on a drizzly Tuesday night. Who are on a bad run.

No easy task but be right at it with the press at the right times and turn the ball over in midfield and I fancy it!

On another note, remember getting the escort after the game to the station previously at Luton but not on the way there. Are they still wrong'uns?

 

[Yellow Mustard]

And f me will we miss Cam Bran on a night like this but what can you do.

 

[MarkG]

Elijah Adebayo to start for Luton

https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/sport/football/luton-town/edwards-urges-town-fans-to-back-adebayo-as-he-reveals-luton-striker-will-start-against-oxford-4803520

 

[DRFC FAN]

Like i said Chesterfield deserved to win. Throughout the game the ref made some strange decisions. Booking our player for very little. Ignoring their player pulling back our winger. Be great to come on here tomorrow or wednesday and youve beaten Luton 5 nil. Them down to 9 and you all think the ref was fabulous. Look at his stats. The guy loves a card and loves to be the centre of attention. He shouldnt be anywhere near football

 

[Wallop]

Like i said Chesterfield deserved to win. Throughout the game the ref made some strange decisions. Booking our player for very little. Ignoring their player pulling back our winger. Be great to come on here tomorrow or wednesday and youve beaten Luton 5 nil. Them down to 9 and you all think the ref was fabulous. Look at his stats. The guy loves a card and loves to be the centre of attention. He shouldnt be anywhere near football

We have a very good disciplinary record this season and it's something that Des Buckingham has spoken about as being key so we don't lose players to suspension unnecessarily. No kicking the ball away for us