Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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HampshireYellow said:
Let’s look at the goal.

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This is where Findlay makes the attempted pass. It’s a terrible one, and easily cut out, but I’ve put a mark where you’d maybe expect/want your left back to be, and where it would have given Findlay and option. Let’s look at where he actually was…

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It’s hard to find him any earlier as he’s out of frame, but this is seconds after the pass is intercepted. What is Seddon doing there?! Look at where our central midfielders are - he’s ahead of them, but as central. It’s where you might expect Matty Taylor to be if he was dropping deep. Look at the left winger - you’d expect your left back to be behind him, not ahead and central!

This isn’t to say that the goal is his fault, as it was still a bad pass from Findlay who could and should have just smashed it high up the field, and obviously more happened afterwards, but it’s interesting how in a team game, the one mistake that you see isn’t always the full story.
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Agree with this. I get the sense Seddon struggles positionally, in that he's being asked/encouraged to be an attacking outlet as well as defensively sound and ends up being average/less than average at both

I actually think Ciaron Brown is a safer pair of hands here, because whilst he offers less going forward (apart from dead balls) he is at least solid defensively. Particularly with high diagonals.
 
Watching the match on ifollow, there was a point early in the second half where Findlay very visibly shows frustration at Seddon playing the ball to him and putting him under pressure.. after that, he barely seemed to pass to Seddon. It was glaringly obvious we were weakest at left back, and Derby constantly took advantage of that - at one time you could see their number 9 pointing over to their right to say "we need to be attacking that side".
 
KR...

“For 60 minutes we were excellent. We knew our wide players would tire because of the work we were asking them to do and we are still dancing around to bring on four or five more players to give us more flexibiity. The big thing now is to keep working hard and we know how aggressive we have to be in the next few weeks to make ourselves stronger.
 
Frustrating as Saturday wound up being - it was genuinely promising at points too.

For arguments sake let’s say you add Todd Kane, Luongo, Rak-Sakyi & a genuinely decent L1 level striker (ideally someone who offers something different from Taylor in terms of physicality/mobility/style - and not Jerome Sinclair)…then all of a sudden that squad looks genuinely imposing. Appreciate those who say we need a LB - I’m on the fence on that personally - but I’d wager with a squad as powerful as that Seddon would get a lot more protection for some of the weaker parts of his game.

We aren’t miles away, and do have the benefit of keeping the bulk of last season’s decent team together. It is enormously annoying that once again we’re starting significantly behind on numbers and seemingly viewing August as an extended pre-season where the points don’t count as much as they do after Christmas…and the recruitment process really does need to get moving with serious urgency if we are to deliver an acceptable points haul from our August fixtures…but we’re not that far off right?!
 
McXal said:
Frustrating as Saturday wound up being - it was genuinely promising at points too.

For arguments sake let’s say you add Todd Kane, Luongo, Rak-Sakyi & a genuinely decent L1 level striker (ideally someone who offers something different from Taylor in terms of physicality/mobility/style - and not Jerome Sinclair)…then all of a sudden that squad looks genuinely imposing. Appreciate those who say we need a LB - I’m on the fence on that personally - but I’d wager with a squad as powerful as that Seddon would get a lot more protection for some of the weaker parts of his game.

We aren’t miles away, and do have the benefit of keeping the bulk of last season’s decent team together. It is enormously annoying that once again we’re starting significantly behind on numbers and seemingly viewing August as an extended pre-season where the points don’t count as much as they do after Christmas…and the recruitment process really does need to get moving with serious urgency if we are to deliver an acceptable points haul from our August fixtures…but we’re not that far off right?!
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Exactly. We’re not miles off at all. Just need some patience. This is a critical period and we must make sure the ones we bring in make us better.
 
Swaby39 said:
KR...

“For 60 minutes we were excellent. We knew our wide players would tire because of the work we were asking them to do and we are still dancing around to bring on four or five more players to give us more flexibiity. The big thing now is to keep working hard and we know how aggressive we have to be in the next few weeks to make ourselves stronger.
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“…. dancing around…”. Yup.
 
McXal said:
Frustrating as Saturday wound up being - it was genuinely promising at points too.

For arguments sake let’s say you add Todd Kane, Luongo, Rak-Sakyi & a genuinely decent L1 level striker (ideally someone who offers something different from Taylor in terms of physicality/mobility/style - and not Jerome Sinclair)…then all of a sudden that squad looks genuinely imposing. Appreciate those who say we need a LB - I’m on the fence on that personally - but I’d wager with a squad as powerful as that Seddon would get a lot more protection for some of the weaker parts of his game.

We aren’t miles away, and do have the benefit of keeping the bulk of last season’s decent team together. It is enormously annoying that once again we’re starting significantly behind on numbers and seemingly viewing August as an extended pre-season where the points don’t count as much as they do after Christmas…and the recruitment process really does need to get moving with serious urgency if we are to deliver an acceptable points haul from our August fixtures…but we’re not that far off right?!
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Agree with all that, bar you have more faith in Seddon than I do.

All I want is for the glaring gaps to be filled with appropriate players. In an ideal world, I would have started filling those first, but I appreciate that it’s easier to write that than it may be to do.

Personally, I think we will beat Cambridge (though their win over MK is an impressive one), but if we don’t get the three points and those gaps still exist, simmering criticism of KR will turn towards boiling rather rapidly.
 
HampshireYellow said:
Let’s look at the goal.

View attachment 9629

This is where Findlay makes the attempted pass. It’s a terrible one, and easily cut out, but I’ve put a mark where you’d maybe expect/want your left back to be, and where it would have given Findlay and option. Let’s look at where he actually was…

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It’s hard to find him any earlier as he’s out of frame, but this is seconds after the pass is intercepted. What is Seddon doing there?! Look at where our central midfielders are - he’s ahead of them, but as central. It’s where you might expect Matty Taylor to be if he was dropping deep. Look at the left winger - you’d expect your left back to be behind him, not ahead and central!

This isn’t to say that the goal is his fault, as it was still a bad pass from Findlay who could and should have just smashed it high up the field, and obviously more happened afterwards, but it’s interesting how in a team game, the one mistake that you see isn’t always the full story.
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I appreciate the analysis 👍🏻 and I think Seddon drifting inwards is a thing that we do. I recall seeing it several times last season, with Kane or more often Brannagan dropping into the vacant space you've marked with the X. I guess the idea is to get them on the ball from deeper positions to help move the ball forward.

Obviously your point still stands though that these failings can often be more of a team thing than one individual.
 
Swaby39 said:
A stitch up? To bring on a professional footballer deemed fit enough to be in the squad and do a job for 15 minutes? Appreciate he looked lethargic but it certainly wasn't unfair of Robbo to bring him on. I felt we did play our game but the wheels just came off with the subs. I don't think I've ever seen KR play for a draw so it was relatively refreshing to see him play for points in this way and bearing in mind the players available; a 0-0 draw would've sent our 3000 home happy and we wouldn't be having this conversation. It was just a sloppy phase of play and a substitute failing to follow instructions that cost us in the end.
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Not wishing to get into an argument, but if youve never seen kr play for a draw god knows what i witnessed at ipswich away last season? In my humble he definitely has a habit of it against the "so called " better teams and i really dont think were better for doing it. Our strength is our attacking play, not our defensive. And personally think we were already on the rack before the subs/ goal came Saturday, that goal had been coming .
 
Osei Yaw said:
I appreciate the analysis 👍🏻 and I think Seddon drifting inwards is a thing that we do. I recall seeing it several times last season, with Kane or more often Brannagan dropping into the vacant space you've marked with the X. I guess the idea is to get them on the ball from deeper positions to help move the ball forward.

Obviously your point still stands though that these failings can often be more of a team thing than one individual.
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The other notable part of this was the reaction. Findlay is far more cross with himself than anything. I think if this were Seddon's fault after the tough game they'd had down that side, he'd have given him a bit of a roasting. Nevertheless I don't like pointing the finger - we'll make tonnes of mistakes this season that won't lead to goals. But when you play Premier league players, that's the difference. I'm more sore about the fact Hourihane was even on the pitch - referee gave him a very, very wide birth.
 
HampshireYellow said:
Let’s look at the goal.

View attachment 9629

This is where Findlay makes the attempted pass. It’s a terrible one, and easily cut out, but I’ve put a mark where you’d maybe expect/want your left back to be, and where it would have given Findlay and option. Let’s look at where he actually was…

View attachment 9631
It’s hard to find him any earlier as he’s out of frame, but this is seconds after the pass is intercepted. What is Seddon doing there?! Look at where our central midfielders are - he’s ahead of them, but as central. It’s where you might expect Matty Taylor to be if he was dropping deep. Look at the left winger - you’d expect your left back to be behind him, not ahead and central!

This isn’t to say that the goal is his fault, as it was still a bad pass from Findlay who could and should have just smashed it high up the field, and obviously more happened afterwards, but it’s interesting how in a team game, the one mistake that you see isn’t always the full story.
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Thought this was the season incomings and transfer…. Not the match dissection thread commonly known as the match day thread.
All the same I like the effort you put in.
 
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