Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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RyanioBirdio said:
Yes, feel the same about CB. He will do a job in other roles and play okay but he is neither a CDM nor a 10 if you want him firing and on top of his game. He’s a box to box number 8 and a bloody good one at that.

14 months ago after the play-off semi defeat, Robinson said that we needed more power in the midfield. All three central midfielders who featured for us yesterday have been at the club since the summer of 2020 at a minimum, and after the game the talk in his post-match was of another central midfielder coming in who is “creative”, while the suggestion seemed to be that Smyth, who is a 6’2” U21 international who has three years on his contract, is probably not going to be in the frame this season. I find that confusing as ever since he arrived in January there has been lots of excitement from within the club regarding how good he was going to be by the end of the year. To go from that to putting three teenagers on the bench ahead of him and RadOx implying he’s possibly not going to get a look in seems very peculiar.

Will be interesting to see how the squad looks in 30 days’ time and what appears to be the preferred system.
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Let’s remember that the Irish league signings are recommended to KR but they aren’t really his signings.

So possibly it’ll be harder for Smyth & McGinty to break in to his plans for the near future. McNally only broke in due to injuries last year. Cooper never really got a chance.

The Irish league has served us very well but they’re Mark Thomas & team signings. Unlike your Findlay’s, Murphy’s & Jodi Jones who are obvious KR recruits.
 
AH said:
Let’s remember that the Irish league signings are recommended to KR but they aren’t really his signings.

So possibly it’ll be harder for Smyth & McGinty to break in to his plans for the near future. McNally only broke in due to injuries last year. Cooper never really got a chance.

The Irish league has served us very well but they’re Mark Thomas & team signings. Unlike your Findlay’s, Murphy’s & Jodi Jones who are obvious KR recruits.
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Well that's rubbish if correct. This is OUFC not KR FC. All signings should be equally valued
 
joe_citrone said:
If we're to make five new signings - I'd bring in a left-back, right-back, CDM, creative mid and a striker. Don't really feel another winger should be a priority now we've added Jodi Jones.
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Wildschut out for 6 months though so won't be registered in the squad for the first half of the season.
 
Shosho said:
Would also add to the above that in the pre-match KR said he was on a zoom to a possible Branngan replacement when Branngan messaged to say he was staying. To get the best out of Brannagan you have to play him as a box to box #8. We fell into the same trap with Kane last season.

A striker like Joseph (or Garrick - I know he’s moved) to do as Garrick did against us at home last season would be ideal. A player with mobility to run channels and offer a threat behind defences. Our best opportunities yesterday came from Bodin’s diagonal runs behind.

Yesterday confirmed what we already knew - we need additions and have an incredibly light bench. Eastwood doesn’t have the ball playing ability to play the role (I suspect) KR wants of him. Seddon still the weakness and will continue to be targeted. I thought in spells we were quite decent yesterday but derby bringing on sibley changed the game in their favour
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This is exactly right. Sibley got behind Brannagan and moved Findlay around. I was critical of Gorrin yesterday and still would be but Sibley was part of that.
 
Billy Billy said:
I think WEyellow was just trying to let us all know, that good money is still available for a striker. Which is good to know we are making bids for players, and not just trying to pick up freebie’s. Do you not think?
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It's all well and good having money but the proof is in the pudding of wether the board actually spend it. I won't be happy if come the end of the window we sign Jerome Sinclair to solve all our problems upfront!
 
OX14 said:
It's all well and good having money but the proof is in the pudding of wether the board actually spend it. I won't be happy if come the end of the window we sign Jerome Sinclair to solve all our problems upfront!
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“Wether the board actually spend it”
That was the point of the original post, that we have money and the board are trying to spend it, by making bids for a striker. As I said, good news because it’s needed.
 
OX14 said:
It's all well and good having money but the proof is in the pudding of wether the board actually spend it.
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No, it’s whether the people charged with spending it and recruiting new players can do so effectively. The board has nothing to prove at this point, especially on the back of giving a player a pay rise rather than cashing in on him to the tune of over a million pounds.
 
RyanioBirdio said:
Yes, feel the same about CB. He will do a job in other roles and play okay but he is neither a CDM nor a 10 if you want him firing and on top of his game. He’s a box to box number 8 and a bloody good one at that.

14 months ago after the play-off semi defeat, Robinson said that we needed more power in the midfield. All three central midfielders who featured for us yesterday have been at the club since the summer of 2020 at a minimum, and after the game the talk in his post-match was of another central midfielder coming in who is “creative”, while the suggestion seemed to be that Smyth, who is a 6’2” U21 international who has three years on his contract, is probably not going to be in the frame this season. I find that confusing as ever since he arrived in January there has been lots of excitement from within the club regarding how good he was going to be by the end of the year. To go from that to putting three teenagers on the bench ahead of him and RadOx implying he’s possibly not going to get a look in seems very peculiar.

Will be interesting to see how the squad looks in 30 days’ time and what appears to be the preferred system.
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KR makes many odd decisions and this is one of his strangest. Smyth looks to be exactly the player we need in the middle of the park ; physically powerful and robust. And yet Robinson now ignores him! How good for the young man’s confidence!
 
RyanioBirdio said:
Gorrin has never looked much good when playing in a 4231. He’s much more comfortable at the base of a 433 midfield where he’s the lone CDM. Sharing duties and having a ‘zone’ rather than being able to move freely across the pitch while screening just doesn’t seem to suit him.

I think he probably is rusty as well, but the combination of the two was a bit of a disaster yesterday. I assumed when the changes were made that we were changing shape to 433 with McGuane and Brannagan as 8s and Gorrin at the base, which would also have made the centre of midfield a bit more compact to stop the pressure that Derby were starting to apply.

If 4231 is going to be the primary shape this season then Gorrin will largely be a passenger regardless of fitness, IMO.
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Completely agree @RyanioBirdio

Alex looks much more confident and effective when he is the sole CDM. Can go where he wants to spot danger and snuff it out.

I know you say it's 433, but actually I think it has been 4141 when he has played well. Which it should have been when he was brought on. But as pointed out by many he was obviously not match fit and very rusty.

Surprised by omission of Smythe.
 
AH said:
Let’s remember that the Irish league signings are recommended to KR but they aren’t really his signings.

So possibly it’ll be harder for Smyth & McGinty to break in to his plans for the near future. McNally only broke in due to injuries last year. Cooper never really got a chance.

The Irish league has served us very well but they’re Mark Thomas & team signings. Unlike your Findlay’s, Murphy’s & Jodi Jones who are obvious KR recruits.
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This is a great way of deflecting any criticism from KR.

Didn't work out? They weren't his signings anyway! They were a success? What a genius Karl is for developing the players!

I'd imagine in modern football there are very few players that aren't recommended to the manager from the recruitment department, so the simple fact is any player signed under his watch and with his approval are his players. The only ones that aren't, are the players who were here before (Eastwood, Stevens, Long, Mousinho, Brannagan, Henry), but Karl's kept them around long enough to be considered part of his plans.

Any deficiencies with the squad are Karl's fault.
 
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ChamonixOx said:
Harsh on dumps this East Stand Fan! Ours has a very nice vista, Blackpool, absolutely FA!

Taylor was poor yesterday and is at his best when he has someone like Baldock creating space and pulling defenders away. But your post appears to be implying he is coasting because he is not under pressure for his place. That if so, in my opinion, is utter rubbish. Good, bad or indifferent, one thing you always get from Taylor is effort. How we play to his strengths is the issue!
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Taylor has played most of his career at Oxford up front on his own and still managed to score 50 odd goals.
 
RyanioBirdio said:
No, it’s whether the people charged with spending it and recruiting new players can do so effectively. The board has nothing to prove at this point, especially on the back of giving a player a pay rise rather than cashing in on him to the tune of over a million pounds.
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One player doesn't make a team though, we are still 5 players short in this squad and I will hold fire until the window is shut before scrutinising the board on what exactly is their ambition this season.
 
Shosho said:
Would also add to the above that in the pre-match KR said he was on a zoom to a possible Branngan replacement when Branngan messaged to say he was staying. To get the best out of Brannagan you have to play him as a box to box #8. We fell into the same trap with Kane last season.

A striker like Joseph (or Garrick - I know he’s moved) to do as Garrick did against us at home last season would be ideal. A player with mobility to run channels and offer a threat behind defences. Our best opportunities yesterday came from Bodin’s diagonal runs behind.

Yesterday confirmed what we already knew - we need additions and have an incredibly light bench. Eastwood doesn’t have the ball playing ability to play the role (I suspect) KR wants of him. Seddon still the weakness and will continue to be targeted. I thought in spells we were quite decent yesterday but derby bringing on sibley changed the game in their favour
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Joseph is available, not sure whether it’s a loan or permanent though, wonder if he’s of interest.
 
Daviddidcotexile said:
Well that's rubbish if correct. This is OUFC not KR FC. All signings should be equally valued
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You should have just stuck with your first three words.

"Well that's rubbish!"

Robinson was over in Ireland only a few weeks ago and was involved with previous Irish signings. Of course Mark Thomas and others do the stats on suitable players but the idea that some signings are more important than others is ridiculous. There were many reasons why Cooper didn't work out, and McNally was rightly eased into the first team. I don't know the reasons why Smyth has dropped away if he has, but the idea it's because Robinson has an issue with Irish players is rubbish.

But let's not forget that this came from @AH who posted this beauty only a few days ago!

AH said:
Brannagan has pushed for this move & told the club he wants to go. He’s no longer committed to OUFC.
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Maybe we shouldn't give too much credit to what he posts after all!!
 
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spmox said:
Completely agree @RyanioBirdio

Alex looks much more confident and effective when he is the sole CDM. Can go where he wants to spot danger and snuff
spmox said:
Completely agree @RyanioBirdio

Alex looks much more confident and effective when he is the sole CDM. Can go where he wants to spot danger and snuff it out.

I know you say it's 433, but actually I think it has been 4141 when he has played well. Which it should have been when he was brought on. But as pointed out by many he was obviously not match fit and very rusty.

Surprised by omission of Smythe.
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out.

I know you say it's 433, but actually I think it has been 4141 when he has played well. Which it should have been when he was brought on. But as pointed out by many he was obviously not match fit and very rusty.

Surprised by omission of Smythe.
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Sorry, Smyth
 
MiddleBartonYellow said:
Taylor has played most of his career at Oxford up front on his own and still managed to score 50 odd goals.
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Very true.

The debate about "Taylor up front on his own doesn't work" is an interesting one.

As said above, it has worked, but and a big BUT, it has worked when we have dominated teams and had 60% plus possession. Then we are genuinely playing 433 and the two wide players up top are playing 15-20 yards away from Matty.

They get lots of the ball to run at opposition fullbacks or cut inside. So Matty is getting fed with cut backs from the bye line or short clever balls into the box where he can excel as a fox in the box.

When we don't have so much possession and are getting pinned back, so that we are often in 4141 shape, then the wide players are 30-40 yards away from him and Matty is being given long balls to contest against 2 (or 3) big centre halves. Not going to work.

It was great when he had those few games with Sam, but (and I agree with KR's reasoning) that depended on having 3 at the back and an unusual and exceptional talent in McNallyy being able to bring the ball out of defence.

With the number and type of wide players we have then I can see we will usually play 433. I just hope that against most teams we will have the possession to make that work.

PS we do need another striker!
 
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