Whilst I think we are almost at exactly our natural place in the Football League 'food chain' at the moment, I believe we should always aspire to promotion above all else. And, frankly, as far as entertainment is concerned, great if we win whilst providing it, but football is a results business - excuse the cliché - and I want results (and so do the owners). I hope I'm proved wrong, but I will be amazed if we achieve promotion under KR. Thus, almost reluctantly, I'm in the 'out' camp.
Manager/Coach Robbo out. Thread number 2
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Id rather go up when we are actually ready,at the moment if we went up wed need a massive turn around of players.
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Absolutely. Imagine the season WWFC had that year, the grounds they went too, the money they made.
This was all in the knowledge that, worst case scenario, they may well be relegated but with a hell of a lot of money to cushion another go at promotion. This is with a decent squad, and manager, that, with all his faults, had proven he was worth another season after relegation as he knew how promotion was achieved.
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No we should go up as soon as we can, and sign players if we need them in the close season. But we should enjoy the journey as well.
yes but not a whole teams worth of players, at the moment how many would be championship ready?
i think we will go up when we have at least 7 to 10 players that are championship ready, then we add more to that during the close season.
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Be careful what you wish for.
There’s an awful lot to be said for management stability.
Offer Clotet’s appointment as a counter argument.
I would not be at all surprised if our next manager is Mousinho.
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We have management stability and the result is clear to see. The owners will decide if they think that result is good enough.
If the end game is top-end L1 football with accompanying thrills-and-spills, we’d be silly to change. If not, they’ve had four years of stability on which to judge the likelihood of it delivering the goal.
Personally, as I’ve said before, I would give him another season, but I do that sentimentally rather than logically because I don’t think KR will win us promotion.
If the end game is top-end L1 football with accompanying thrills-and-spills, we’d be silly to change. If not, they’ve had four years of stability on which to judge the likelihood of it delivering the goal.
Personally, as I’ve said before, I would give him another season, but I do that sentimentally rather than logically because I don’t think KR will win us promotion.
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Not being promoted maybe your be all and end all but people on here and not in here who support Oxford want promotion, they know we’ve had 2 attempts and a close attempt but now they want promotion.
The board want promotion, Anindia Bakri said in a “couple of years” next season is the 2nd of those couple of years.
Being in L1 may be ok for you and the lots of fans who feel the same as you as you claim is a case of who knows.
Next year has to be his last year for to try and get promotion and of course he will need the budget to do this.
I think he will get the budget to try this as I doubt Anindia Bakri would have made the statement if promotion within a couple of years.
Sure we may come straight back down as the championship is a complete different kettle of fish to what the old division 2 was.
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Let’s hope he does his business a lot sooner rather than later in the close window, let’s also hope we don’t read on here “ patience, he is waiting for the right player to come along “ and then end up with option B or even C
Sorry I’m still not sold. I don’t ever want us to go in to the league above thinking about coming back down. Of course you need a plan if that happens but I would far rather we go up playing confident, positive football and take the championship on the ‘Oxford United’ way and give ourselves a chance to control our own destiny rather than play percentages. We have an identity I want us to stick to and if that means league one for a couple more seasons until we are ready then so be it. I’m not interested in watching us pack the box and punt balls in the channel all season trying to stay in games and ultimately come down anyway to do it again against poorer opposition just with better league one players… yawn. The cash windfall didn’t make Wycombe much more competitive at league one. Still a play off club.
With regards the away days, we have a handful of the biggest and most historic stadiums in the country so I’m not missing that in my calendar.
It’s an age old debate - everybody wants the best for their club and I’m not for a second suggesting you don’t. Some are willing to compromise on the style of play for results, others hold on to the ‘entertainment’ factor where the method of victory is still important because there is a certain pride that comes with playing attacking football. That’s where I am.
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I think at the moment if we were to be promoted next season we would more than likely come back down as I said this isn’t the old Division 2 this is the championship which generate a hell of a lot of money in comparison to the old Division 2.
But if the backing is their when we get to the championship I’m sure KR will have the backing to stay in the championship although we could be flirting with the relegation zone for a couple of seasons whilst we are building the Squad to become a force in the championship.
Luton managed to stay up and now have a chance of making the play offs.
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Which shows the strength of the championship a team in the play off got absolutely smashed 7-0 against the team that won the league
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Yes they do and fair play to them, I think it’s 3 seasons they’ve been there and have built up to get where they are at the moment, but there are others , your Rotherham’s and such who will always be dallying around the relegation zone.
Peterborough thought with the money they’ve had plus the sale of Toney would have given to them the finance to compete but Ferguson didn’t use it well so now they are back in L1. It won’t be easy but it’s definitely doable.
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You must be pretty unhappy overall with OUFC then. We've mustered three promotions since 1986 and only because we've been relegated enough times to have to go up again.
I don't want to come across as ambitionless or in a position where I would turn a promotion down, but League 1 is fun, isn't it? You get a taste of the Championship with the likes of Sunderland, Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday down here (Derby next season) as well as a few teams you'd be hoping for in a FA Cup round one away day from time to time like Burton and Accrington Stanley (Forest Green give a bit of novelty next term). The football is a much better standard than League 2, we have seven new teams to play each season (no other PL/EFL division has that) and we're pretty competitive too.
I see any promotion as a bonus from here on in. If we're promoted, we'll surely be the smallest or one of the smallest sides in the Championship whereas we're a mid-ranking side with an admitted upward trajectory in League 1. We're working towards being a bigger club which is why my attitude to OUFC is fairly relaxed since we're not there yet. The number of 10k attendances suggest we're going about things the right way. Stay competitive, win more than we lose and aim for the top half first and see what happens.
We know the owners have bigger ambitions than that and I look forward to strapping myself in for the ride (as long as any spending is their own and not debt wracked up against the club). If the ambitions are revised and consolidation in League 1 is needed, no bother for me. I quite like it here.
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Championship would be fine the premiership would mean 100’s millions of investments and unless we have sell outs at the 18,000 stadium week in week out then the premiership could only be a dream.
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Dreams can sort of come true.never did I think at the time we would win back to back promotions to the top fight in the 80s.As for reaching a cup final at Wembley as well to top it off, was in every Oxfords fans wildest dreams. Just keep the faith it could happen again you never know.
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No disrespect for your opinion but, when those clubs, or any for that matter, come down to League 1, it's because they are NOT championship clubs any longer. (nor for that matter are they Premiership sides any more)
They have not played well enough to win enough to remain Championship sides. I can't stand this notion that they are bigger and better than OUFC simply because, in recent times, they played in a division higher. Forget not that OUFC once played in the First Division now the Premiership, that doesn't make us any better nor does it give us any enhanced status - quite right too.
League 1 is only fun if we are winning enough games to not worry about relegation and it becomes a delight when we are winning enough to achieve promotion. Remember the elation we all felt when getting out of League 2? I want that feeling, and more besides, when we get out of League 1.
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That has also happened to us in league one though so at least we would be prepared for it.
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