Oxford vaccine 70-90% effective

I suppose the difference you could point to is that such people threaten only their own health, whereas those who don't take the vaccine not only do that but threaten the health of others (who may not be able to take the vaccine or in whom it fails) by becoming a potential reservoir of infection.
I see your point although you could argue that second hand smoke damages other people’s lungs, drinking and needing a liver replacement takes an organ away from someone else who needs it, taking drugs fuels drug crime, and doing any of those and being treated for it takes up time and resources which could hinder others...
 
When people argue about denying other people use of the NHS as if it’s a free service that they personally fund for others it leaves me shaking my head, we all pay into it through taxes so if we are going to deny people it then people would have to have the right to opt out of funding it.
 
For clarity, I was NOT proposing that (and nor was Pete really), just being devil's advocate. The NHS being a free, universal service is hugely important.
 
I asked because when discussing one of the other vaccines the press were saying they were unsure if it gave immunity or simply blocked the symptoms. Why be so aggressive?

Because it was asked in what appeared to me to be a passive aggressive way and the ease of which the answer was available with a quick google suggested you were making or were setting someone up for a derogatory anti lockdown or antivaccine statement.

I apologise if I completely misread it and that was not the case. Wouldnt be the first time I'd done it!
 
Shot 1 Thursday next week.

Leicester Racecourse is being lined up as a vaccination hub. Folk might need to wait around for 15 minutes after to ensure no adverse reaction.
Is this assuming we have a approved vaccine as we don’t at the moment?
 
Shot 1 Thursday next week.

Leicester Racecourse is being lined up as a vaccination hub. Folk might need to wait around for 15 minutes after to ensure no adverse reaction.
How will we know if it's having an effect on you? (😉)
 
One comment here - the reason the vaccines have been developed so quickly is not because people started working on them full speed in March. It is because people in all sorts of research areas from cancer biology, immunology, nanotechnology, physical chemistry, Nucleic acid chemistry have been working on this stuff for decades, often struggling to get funded for their work, with politicians saying “why are we using taxpayers funds to pay for this fundamental research?”. But then the crisis hits and they step up to the plate and deliver. Science funding needs to be considered more like military funding. We spunk billions up the wall each year to keep the military sharp in case something happens, but we make scientists fight and compete for every penny every year under worse and worse circumstances, and when they say “climate change is real” or “vaccinate your kids” or “beware of the effects of urbanisation”, they get shouted down.
Everyone involved in making these vaccines have put huge amounts of work in for many years with little recognition until they suddenly become essential.
 
Shot 1 Thursday next week.

Leicester Racecourse is being lined up as a vaccination hub. Folk might need to wait around for 15 minutes after to ensure no adverse reaction.
I assume that is trial rather than rollout?
 
Shot 1 Thursday next week.

Leicester Racecourse is being lined up as a vaccination hub. Folk might need to wait around for 15 minutes after to ensure no adverse reaction.

Slight delay...... and re-jig of what`s going on!

Having shot 1 of the Janssen Phase III trial drug today, or a placebo.

Some complexities around using staff on the trial that may, or may not, subsequently get a vaccine and all the un-blinding from the trial that goes with.

If I`m not around tomorrow... it didn`t go well.
:ROFLMAO:
 
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