Home Match Day Thread 13-10-2020 L1 OUFC v Crewe Alexandra (2nd attempt MATCH OFF)

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Crewe said:
So what should Crewe have done last night?
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As explained here already your clubs blatant irresponsibility precedes last night.

You failed to fulfil the fixture, whilst trying to "keep it quiet" from PHE guided (allegedly) by the EFL.

I hope your club gets what is coming to them (points deduction, fine, PHE kicking the front door in) but the EFL seem to prefer to sweep such things under an ever lumpier carpet.
 
Crewe said:
They wanted to shut the club down, as they decided we had a ‘cluster’. Would have meant the next 5 matches PP. The club then essentially entered negotiations with PHE, and struck a deal that we can play again once everyone is tested and get the all clear. This all happened on Monday/Tuesday, meaning not enough time to test ahead of last night. The FL have been involved as well, and want to keep it all under wraps as they don’t want PHE ‘getting involved in football’. Hence the aloof statements we read yesterday.

Two more things. I am not an employee of Crewe, this is just what I have been told by someone who knows what they are talking about. Also, test and trace take a bow. It took them 9 days to get in touch with Crewe. 9 whole days. Disgracefully inept.
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There you go... a simple answer provided by you to what should have happened to Crewe.
Play by the rules the rest of the population have to.
If you were a pub or a venue you get shut, no choice, no deals.
 
Essexyellows said:
There you go... a simple answer provided by you to what should have happened to Crewe.
Play by the rules the rest of the population have to.
If you were a pub or a venue you get shut, no choice, no deals.
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So why haven't have all clubs had to do this following multiple positives?

Liverpool, Stevenage, Tranmere and Wigan for example.

Grimsby did and postponed 3 games in total but only had one positive test (publicly)
Orient got kicked out of the cup after 17 positives and then postponed one further match.

The consistency across the game is woeful.
 
Firstly, Bazzer I would like to reply to you, but I genuinely have no idea what your point is. Maybe write it all in one post and I’ll see if I can answer.
Essexyellows said:
As explained here already your clubs blatant irresponsibility precedes last night.

You failed to fulfil the fixture, whilst trying to "keep it quiet" from PHE guided (allegedly) by the EFL.

I hope your club gets what is coming to them (points deduction, fine, PHE kicking the front door in) but the EFL seem to prefer to sweep such things under an ever lumpier carpet.
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I’m not sure that’s accurate. The information was in the public sphere about the positive tests. It’s up to PHE/test and trace to get in touch if they think there is an issue.
Essexyellows said:
There you go... a simple answer provided by you to what should have happened to Crewe.
Play by the rules the rest of the population have to.
If you were a pub or a venue you get shut, no choice, no deals.
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Well PHE evidently disagree as they have decided against that (although if a load of our players test positive in the tests this week then I am sure we will be shut down)
 
captainox said:
So why haven't have all clubs had to do this following multiple positives?

Liverpool, Stevenage, Tranmere and Wigan for example.

Grimsby did and postponed 3 games in total but only had one positive test (publicly)
Orient got kicked out of the cup after 17 positives and then postponed one further match.

The consistency across the game is woeful.
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In my world the whole lot would have got treated the same. :)
Whilst pro football may have more access to testing they must abide by the same rules as all of us when they get a result or symptoms.
If that weakens a team then so be it.
If they can`t fulfil a fixture and fail one rescheduled game then its forfeited (like Rugby).
If a club becomes a cluster close it down, same as a pub etc.

It can be so simple it amazing nobody at the EFL came up with it....
 
Joey's Left Boot said:
If true, I wonder why PHE intervened? Not happy with Crewe's protocols over the past couple of weeks maybe? Didn't want a group from a high risk area travelling to a lower risk area at this time?
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Doubt it otherwise 50% of football matches would be off.
 
m said:
Indeed. It's hardly 'North Stand Toilets' when it comes to source quality, is it?
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No probs. I’ll leave you all to it then.

I mean, I never said I met this individual down the pub. We were in the pub together last night. We entered together, and we left together. You can go to the pub with your friends.

Anyway, that’s me done. I thought it wrong that fans were being kept in the dark. I heard what happened (well what Crewe claim happened) so thought it right to share it. I didn’t come here for arsey replies. If you hear any more news, it won’t be from me. And you certainly will never hear the truth from Crewe, because they have always been very secretive.
 
Crewe said:
Firstly, Bazzer I would like to reply to you, but I genuinely have no idea what your point is. Maybe write it all in one post and I’ll see if I can answer.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. The information was in the public sphere about the positive tests. It’s up to PHE/test and trace to get in touch if they think there is an issue.

Well PHE evidently disagree as they have decided against that (although if a load of our players test positive in the tests this week then I am sure we will be shut down)
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Simple question Beckles didn’t isolate why? You live said on her that you have to isolate for 10 days from the test, did Beckles isolate? I will answer that he didn’t, but having heard Artell and his comments I can only assume nothing will happen to Beckles on the form of disciplinary action. Finally what haven’t heard as you claim in a earlier thread
 
Crewe said:
No probs. I’ll leave you all to it then.

I mean, I never said I met this individual down the pub. We were in the pub together last night. We entered together, and we left together. You can go to the pub with your friends.

Anyway, that’s me done. I thought it wrong that fans were being kept in the dark. I heard what happened (well what Crewe claim happened) so thought it right to share it. I didn’t come here for arsey replies. If you hear any more news, it won’t be from me. And you certainly will never hear the truth from Crewe, because they have always been very secretive.
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No arsey replies but questions to your claims. Which you seem to bypass. I asked a series of questions as I have only just come on here as I’ve been busy, hence why the many posts containing questions, but you haven’t even tried to answer one. Now if that’s arsey well that beggars belief.
 
Kamal said:
I'm still confused as to why PHE got involved at all. Could someone explain?
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I don't know exactly what PHE are doing with COVID, but they are they will be doing things like sequence analysis from different patients to try and identify how local outbreaks are spreading, and I know they have "advised" other businesses under other circs (e.g. outbreaks of food poisening in restaurants etc.), so it wouldn't surprise me if they had been involved in this.

What I don't understand is that if this was called off following advice from PHE, why haven't Crewe said that? It would surely hace cleared things up and saved a lot of bad feeling all round. I've had a quick google around, and can find nothing linking PHE to this. Is there any evidence, other than posts on here that they are involved?
 
YellowShark said:
I don't know exactly what PHE are doing with COVID, but they are they will be doing things like sequence analysis from different patients to try and identify how local outbreaks are spreading, and I know they have "advised" other businesses under other circs (e.g. outbreaks of food poisening in restaurants etc.), so it wouldn't surprise me if they had been involved in this.

What I don't understand is that if this was called off following advice from PHE, why haven't Crewe said that? It would surely hace cleared things up and saved a lot of bad feeling all round. I've had a quick google around, and can find nothing linking PHE to this. Is there any evidence, other than posts on here that they are involved?
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Also what is it that PHE have said is the reason and what is the reason, waiting on @Crewe to answer as he said he had received some information a short while back.
 
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