£13m was on the cards when there was little chance of housing on the site. Now, Kassam would expect something similar to the value he would get if sold to property developers which would probably exceed that figure.
Enclosed, warm, welcoming concourse, better facilities before and after games, toilets and changing facilities that were clean and hygienic, and having an enclosed stadium to reduce the wind and rain. All of these things would make games more attractive.
You may see the merits of staying where we are.Any discussion on the payback period if the club buy GR needs to factor in that the asset retains significant value even after the initial cost has been recouped from the rent savings and ancillary earnings from the conference centre etc. Potential income per seat never declines, unless the place started to fall down through neglect. The owners therefore have two means of making a financial return: the cashflow savings/earnings over the next 15 years or so plus the sale value/future earnings thereafter. It's not the same as paying for a car over 15 years which is worth next to nothing at the end.
This doesn't include potential net return from a fourth stand.
The more I think about this, the more I believe in the merits of staying where we are.
I also think a smaller/cheaper than discussed fourth stand to accommodate, say, 1500 seats would still vastly improve the atmosphere and be enough for away fans for most games giving us full access the the North Stand.
It's an appalling stadium in my view. My least favourite of all Stadiums in Englandone of the games with the most chilling wind this year was mk dons away. which im sure we can all agree is a great stadium as a standalone.
I'd rather not think about that!You may see the merits of staying where we are.
But have you factored in Kassam who doesnt want to sell?
if possible MK stadium is even more soul-less than the breeze block..... if there isnt already, there should be a sign over the turnstiles stating 'abandon hope all ye who enter'It's an appalling stadium in my view. My least favourite of all Stadiums in England
The only thing that looked a possibility and was mentioned was Kasssm not making any money on the ground and letting oufc have it and have to run/ maintain it.I know we go round and round in circles on this topic (me included!) - but I can't see how buying, refurbing and possibly extending Grenoble Road makes any financial sense at all for the person putting up the money. And judging by the fact that nobody has done it yet, neither can anyone else!
a football pitch is 1.32 acres so the stadium alone is approx 7 acres ....add some of the parking and youre still waaaaaay outLand with planning permission goes for roughly £1m per acre in the UK - in Oxford it's more. For a site as big as the Kassam (22 acres at least?) Firoz would be looking at over £30m for the land alone with it being such a large & viable site, right next to the Science Park. Whilst you could argue that the site doesn't have planning permission currently, he'll get that assurance ahead of playing ball.
if possible MK stadium is even more soul-less than the breeze block..... if there isnt already, there should be a sign over the turnstiles stating 'abandon hope all ye who enter'
So are you suggesting the investors are only here for the money, OUFC is the avenue to create that opportunity via a new retail park/stadium.
we had to sell players recently to stay afloat according to the club.
So you agree with the rest of it then, that makes a change.Can you provide a link to this statement from the club?
Can you provide a link to this statement from the club?
Of course I'm not agreeing with you, because no statement was ever made!! Zaki spoke about balancing the books, offsetting some of the operating costs etc. That has absolutely nothing to do with "keeping the club afloat" as you said.So you agree with the rest of it then, that makes a change.
Unless I’m mistaken didn’t Zaki say it was a commercial decision that helped the cash flow of the club or words to that effect, you can always look up the quote if you like.
already aware my memory isnt good today .. wasnt the vice chairman on the first Rad Ox.5 min Fans forum after the board decided on ' cashing in' on Fosu & Baptiste more or less as the transfer window was closing? he mayve said something about sustainability of the club, balancing books or similar.... and also mayve said something about not standing in the way of players ambitions?? ...... I dont know if theres a BBCiplayer link to that still available?So you agree with the rest of it then, that makes a change.
Unless I’m mistaken didn’t Zaki say it was a commercial decision that helped the cash flow of the club or words to that effect, you can always look up the quote if you like.