Away Match Day Thread +++ Peterborough Utd v OUFC - match day thread +++

jayhi1810 said:
Are you f-ing serious? You, backed up by several other geniuses on here spout the biggest load of shite on here mate.
We lost, against an extremely good team...we move on we’re playing 9 games in a month and went to extra time on Tuesday against a prem club.

To be honest I don’t even know why I’m bothering responding to this. They say never argue with an idiot...
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we got spanked by an extremely good team, and are free falling away from the playoffs, with a squad that should easily be good enough for top 6, sorry if I feel Robinson deserves some blame for that

but I am not anti Robinson and think he can turn it back around but to act like he’s blameless is ridiculous
 
bazzer9461 said:
That’s the problem it’s the system 4 2 3 1 or later in today’s performance 4 1 4 1. Why can’t KR adopt a 4 3 3 so Taylor who obviously wasn’t ready would have had company.
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Because he has a much tactical nous as a Tiramisu?

Robbo has a lot of strengths. Tactical flexibility has never been one of them.
 
Thomas/Brock/Jones said:
Yet another post ! Can't keep away can you all of a sudden spreading bile
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Sorry im not a beacon of joy after a 4 nil annihilation and a team rapidly sliding down the table.

You will see i gave plenty of credit after the Newcastle game as the players deserved it, but yesterday was dire. We were flogging dead horses almost literally.
 
greatunclekip said:
Sorry im not a beacon of joy after a 4 nil annihilation and a team rapidly sliding down the table.

You will see i gave plenty of credit after the Newcastle game as the players deserved it, but yesterday was dire. We were flogging dead horses almost literally.
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No one is , we are having a good 'test ' now to see what we are made of. Endless moans and trying to cause problems helps no one. And you don't come on after a good win ..maybe 1 post ...now you cannot stop
 
Very bad day at the office after the mid week heroics. Clearly that game took a lot out of us as many had predicted.

Let’s hope that this result is actually a kick up the backside we need to draw a line under a poor run of league results in 2020 and redouble our efforts.

Everything feels against us at the minute but if Southampton can bounce back after their 9-0 mauling, I’m sure as s**t we can cope with this result.

We move on.

Season isn’t ending on a whimper just yet but maybe by the end of February we will have a much clearer picture of where things are headed.
 
The players have been called in today to go over the game. Tiredness undoubtedly played its part, but First up should be the realisation that we played so f*****g wide open right from the off.
I hate to see us play defensively, but we certainly played straight into their hands by going toe to toe with them.

Also, there will be no get out ball for us as long as we are asking Matty Taylor to play lone striker role, that is not his game.
In fact, Browne against Blackpool showed more in that role than any of our strikers have this season.

No question about it, good teams are no longer going to allow us any time on the ball to dictate play. So we have to prepare to fight harder than them, work harder than them, think quicker than them if we are to subdue and eventually roll them over. We can’t expect to win every game of course, but we must learn to be more compact if we are to not get overrun like yesterday.
On the injury front, we do have several key players who are, by their own high standards, not quite on it at the moment.
Let’s hope that their return to fitness is swift, because we need to re-group and move on.
Contrary to what many say on here, we are not yet out of it, but it is going to take grit and strong personality to get through this. No-one becomes successful by lying down and accepting their acid fate, so I urge the players to stand up to the challenge and be counted. We can still do this!
 
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Ricky Otto said:
Just here to watch the meltdowns.

On a side note, a reasonable source connected to the Directors informed me that the ambition to get promoted isnt there. Disappointing if true although hopefully taken out of context.
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To be honest, I have suspected as much.

But we have to be realistic, as much as we would all like to see us promoted this season, financially, it could ruin us. There would be a huge increase in funding needed, for things such as transfers, wages, and probably having to do something with the open end (I'm not sure we'd be allowed to play in the Championship with only three stands, I might be wrong though) and this would all massively increase our losses at the end of the season, and increase our debt. It could leave us totally broke, and then if the owners left, our existence could be in jeopardy. Just look at what has happened to Bury and Bolton, who spent way above their means, trying to compete at levels they were not financially equipped for.

It may just be that the board have recognised this, and decided that financially, we're not in a position to compete in the championship yet, without risking the future of the club, so their short term ambition is to simply keep us at the level we're at in league one, bring in real quality to help keep us in this league, but quickly sell those players for a tidy profit, to clear the clubs debts, and reduce the annual losses, whilst seeing out the current lease on the stadium.

Once this is (hopefully) achieved, maybe they'll feel we're in a better financial position to start investing heavily in the team and stadium issues, and finally make a real push for promotion to the championship, where they'll hopefully be in a better position to be able to stabilise and sustain the club at that level, before looking to push forward again.

However, IF this is indeed their plan, which would be understandable, and lets face it, pretty sensible, then they should at least be honest and outline those plans to us, so the fans can be more realistic with their expectations for the future.

Of course this is just conjecture and very wishful thinking on my part, it may just be that they're a bunch idiots, making a pigs ear of everything again, and undoing all the hard work thats gone into the first half of the season.

Who knows, only time will tell.
 
I don't think you can plan "not to get promoted" - we have more than enough wherewithall about us to make the playoffs and KR's teams are all about fight, spirit and togetherness. I agree that playing in the Championship looks to be a daunting prospect, but cometh the hour.........

The decision was obviously (well to me anyways) that it was better to risk the chance of promotion for the certainty of cold, hard cash - we may yet get lucky and end up with both.........
 
Mad dog87 said:
But we have to be realistic, as much as we would all like to see us promoted this season, financially, it could ruin us.
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But no business attracts investment by standing still. No club attracts sponsors and advertisers by standing still.
And no club attracts new fans or makes existing fans regular attenders, or attracts good players by standing still.
There has to be ambition and there has to be hope.
 
Did a spell in the Championship ruin Burton, who we play on Tuesday? Or did it allow them some extra income to be more sustainable?

Im sure Luton, struggling though they are, arent thinking "christ we regret that promotion". Id guess Wigan would rather be playing Leeds than Rochdale.

If the stadium/land deal depended on promotion you can bet your bottom dollar January would have looked very different.

Still am sure we're due another inspirational quote from Tiger right about now..
 
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dabigfella said:
That we couldn't sign any needed players, that I can understand. The January window is notoriously difficult to prize good players away from their clubs. In a way I also understand that the board are business men and the offers were too tempting and would cover potential debts. But in the long run to fail to recruit and then sell two of your best players from an already depleted squad makes the clear statement that the board is not interested in promotion this year. This was made clear to all by their actions. Unfortunately it was also made clear to the players. To have busted a gut to get promotion any way they can must have been a kick in the teeth to every one of them.
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And this is what so many have been overlooking while they fawn over the excel spreadsheets and praise the profit margins. The footballers who are out there putting themselves through it in pursuit of achieving something have had to deal with essentially being shown that their efforts are potentially unwanted. “We don’t want you to lose too often, but for god’s sake don’t get promoted you maniacs!”

We have brought in over £5m this season - people forget the £2m we got for Whyte as well as the £3m we just got in January. Plus over half a million in cup runs. So that’s around £5.5m in sales and cup revenues, which we’re told is essentially two full years of losses being covered, and we’ve barely put a penny of that back in to restocking the shelves. Why would we do that? Why when the model is working and they’re buying low, selling high, wouldn’t they WANT to keep doing that? If we’re being told to think of the business economics, then let’s focus exclusively on them for a moment. If we sold £5m of talent every season while spending, let’s say £1m on new additions, and then factor in around £3m for losses, then that’s a profit of around £1m per year. Without a single penny in cup runs which could easily whack hundred of thousands more on to that. So why shy away from that, and why keep the value of the players at L1 levels? Gavin Whyte was sold as a mid-table L1 player for £2m. If he were sold as a freshly-promoted Championship player, he would be sold for double. That’s how it works. So why have we tried to hard to avoid that of late?

I have my own theories which the people who accuse others of being bed wetters would wet the bed over, in a delicious slice of irony, but let’s see how the season and next summer play out first.

I still hold out hope that we will go on a run and get into the playoffs, just to spite what the board have done. I’d love nothing more than to be sat at Wembley watching a playoff final and knowing that some of the people in the royal box would be sweating the entire time ?
 
Mad dog87 said:
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To be honest, I have suspected as much.

But we have to be realistic, as much as we would all like to see us promoted this season, financially, it could ruin us. There would be a huge increase in funding needed, for things such as transfers, wages, and probably having to do something with the open end (I'm not sure we'd be allowed to play in the Championship with only three stands, I might be wrong though) and this would all massively increase our losses at the end of the season, and increase our debt. It could leave us totally broke, and then if the owners left, our existence could be in jeopardy. Just look at what has happened to Bury and Bolton, who spent way above their means, trying to compete at levels they were not financially equipped for.

It may just be that the board have recognised this, and decided that financially, we're not in a position to compete in the championship yet, without risking the future of the club, so their short term ambition is to simply keep us at the level we're at in league one, bring in real quality to help keep us in this league, but quickly sell those players for a tidy profit, to clear the clubs debts, and reduce the annual losses, whilst seeing out the current lease on the stadium.

Once this is (hopefully) achieved, maybe they'll feel we're in a better financial position to start investing heavily in the team and stadium issues, and finally make a real push for promotion to the championship, where they'll hopefully be in a better position to be able to stabilise and sustain the club at that level, before looking to push forward again.

However, IF this is indeed their plan, which would be understandable, and lets face it, pretty sensible, then they should at least be honest and outline those plans to us, so the fans can be more realistic with their expectations for the future.

Of course this is just conjecture and very wishful thinking on my part, it may just be that they're a bunch idiots, making a pigs ear of everything again, and undoing all the hard work thats gone into the first half of the season.

Who knows, only time will tell.
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referance your comment about not being sure we could play it 3 stands in the championship, Bournemouth did
 
Don’t want to come across all rose tinted but a lot of this thread is a load of ill founded negative B*****s.

This team will come again.

Well beaten yesterday by a useful team who took advantage of our definite Tuesday night tiredness.

Have to say that the OUFC contingent actually at Peterborough kept supporting all game though and there was very little moaning.
 
brassmonkey said:
longs fault again.. playing the ball blind.
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I really do want to join the Long love in on here but what’s stopping me is he does that stupid pass several times a game, KR needs to knock that out of him.
 
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