Manager/Coach KR needs to go

He doesn't need sacking as a matter of urgency, but this is turning into a carbon copy of last season. Lessons have not been learnt and fans are starting to vote with their feet with attendances dropping. It's all just a bit tedious and the best we can hope for again is probably mid-table.
Would be nice to see another manager have a go with this group of players, I genuinely think we have a good squad on paper who could have a push at the playoffs, but not playing under the current systems, tactics, formations etc.
Are the board still aiming for the Championship as they claim? Or are they happy plodding along as we are?
 
But Bolton apparently aren't?
Exactly
How come they can cobble 9? players in around transfer deadline day and get a few more free agents.
KR then tells us they have assembled a very good set of players.They have indeed and I would love to have 2/3 of them in our team.
If they were out there and available how come we weren’t looking at them, instead we have have too many players who are still injured when they arrive here.Agyei,the lad from Derby and indeed Robbie Hall.
We knew Nelson was off a year ago and we still haven’t addressed that problem.We have a right back until Xmas and no real cover at left back.
KR will tell us the team are still gelling and don’t judge him until all our players are match fit.
Last year I think we got away with it because we had pace with Whyte and Browne without them we look ordinary.
I’m not calling for his head yet but another season mid to low table is where I see us. I’m sure the Chairman does not have that much patience
 
I don't think he should have as much control of things as he does at the club. I also think we need someone to oversee recruitment and his role here should be greatly reduced.
This. Maybe a good question to NM on the 5 min thing tomorrow is Do the the club intend to appoint a Director of Football to bridge the gap between the owners and head coach and ease the ridiculous workload on his shoulders? Robinson himself spoke about his desire to have one in place, that must’ve been getting on a year ago.
 
No he doesn't need to go. We have just picked up 4 points in the space of 4 days. This time last season we had 5 points and were getting battered. This season we aren't. We are making stupid mistakes.

He points out that we were well below are best last night - correct
He makes a point of saying how good Bolton were - they were excellent. Their pressing game was one of the best i've seen at this level in a very long time.

Bolton now have a team that I thought they would of had at the start the season and have players that can play the game very well. If it wasn't for the fact that they have been getting battered each week because of having to use their youth team then people would see an away point at Bolton as a good result. It was clear that they had put a lot of work in on the training ground and sometimes you do need to give credit to the other team.

Also it should be noted that their crowd dragged them through that last 15 minutes of the game. You could see them starting to tire after 75 minutes but then their fans really lifted the roof and got behind them. You could see it give their players an extra 10% in their legs to dig deep and get a point so credit to their fans too.

For us, it is a case of getting back to basics and trying to cut out stupid mistakes and being confident on the ball. Last night a few players were trying to do too much to create something.
 
If Taylor is supposed to be the answer upfront then we need a more creative midfield player to play him in, recruitment seems disjointed some good individual players but not yet a team. KR is here for the foreseeable future so it’s his problem to sort out sticking the ball in the back of the net, penalties, own goals are not going to be enough and corners are becoming embarrassing do we ever score from them lately.
 
put alot of work on the training ground really? what in 1 session since being hit for 6 over the weekend?

i presume we had scouts at their recent games

Nothing can be taken for granted in football but to come away with a 0-0 has to be a disappointment surely
 
No he doesn't need to go. We have just picked up 4 points in the space of 4 days. This time last season we had 5 points and were getting battered. This season we aren't. We are making stupid mistakes.

He points out that we were well below are best last night - correct
He makes a point of saying how good Bolton were - they were excellent. Their pressing game was one of the best i've seen at this level in a very long time.

Bolton now have a team that I thought they would of had at the start the season and have players that can play the game very well. If it wasn't for the fact that they have been getting battered each week because of having to use their youth team then people would see an away point at Bolton as a good result. It was clear that they had put a lot of work in on the training ground and sometimes you do need to give credit to the other team.

Also it should be noted that their crowd dragged them through that last 15 minutes of the game. You could see them starting to tire after 75 minutes but then their fans really lifted the roof and got behind them. You could see it give their players an extra 10% in their legs to dig deep and get a point so credit to their fans too.

For us, it is a case of getting back to basics and trying to cut out stupid mistakes and being confident on the ball. Last night a few players were trying to do too much to create something.
Yes Bolton were good but the question should surely be how was that the case? With a team thrown together at the 11th hour by a manager barely through the door and then only a week or two on the training ground to work on tactics let alone fitness. We had the whole summer to recruit and get fitness levels up to scratch. The team has had plenty of time to work on tactics. Robinson has had well over a year to work out what he wants. I was never one who thought we’d hammer Bolton last night, I was under no illusions that we’d get the sort of result the likes of Wycombe got against them, but I was slightly shocked at how much they dominated us for large parts of the game and how much more organised they looked. Keith Hill has managed to recruit some very good players in a short space of time where as we’re constantly told you have to wait for months to get decent players.
 
Yes Bolton were good but the question should surely be how was that the case? With a team thrown together at the 11th hour by a manager barely through the door and then only a week or two on the training ground to work on tactics let alone fitness. We had the whole summer to recruit and get fitness levels up to scratch. The team has had plenty of time to work on tactics. Robinson has had well over a year to work out what he wants. I was never one who thought we’d hammer Bolton last night, I was under no illusions that we’d get the sort of result the likes of Wycombe got against them, but I was slightly shocked at how much they dominated us for large parts of the game and how much more organised they looked. Keith Hill has managed to recruit some very good players in a short space of time where as we’re constantly told you have to wait for months to get decent players.
They were mainly free agents or in other words unemployed footballers. There will be more of them in the north west than down here I guess.

But it does raise questions about our recruitment. We’ve gone for ‘good players’ who are skilful but lack pace and power. Maybe we’ll come good but maybe we should have gone for a bit more variety
 
Yes Bolton were good but the question should surely be how was that the case? With a team thrown together at the 11th hour by a manager barely through the door and then only a week or two on the training ground to work on tactics let alone fitness. We had the whole summer to recruit and get fitness levels up to scratch. The team has had plenty of time to work on tactics. Robinson has had well over a year to work out what he wants. I was never one who thought we’d hammer Bolton last night, I was under no illusions that we’d get the sort of result the likes of Wycombe got against them, but I was slightly shocked at how much they dominated us for large parts of the game and how much more organised they looked. Keith Hill has managed to recruit some very good players in a short space of time where as we’re constantly told you have to wait for months to get decent players.
But are they any good? Perhaps we made them look good, only time will tell, it,s hard to believe they have improved that much from the 6-1 drubbing they received at the weekend, i would suggest we were particularly poor and they raised there game sufficiently to get a draw, our away record is shocking, i wouldn,t fancy us away to anyone at the moment least of all Lincoln Saturday.
 
Yes Bolton were good but the question should surely be how was that the case? With a team thrown together at the 11th hour by a manager barely through the door and then only a week or two on the training ground to work on tactics let alone fitness. We had the whole summer to recruit and get fitness levels up to scratch. The team has had plenty of time to work on tactics. Robinson has had well over a year to work out what he wants. I was never one who thought we’d hammer Bolton last night, I was under no illusions that we’d get the sort of result the likes of Wycombe got against them, but I was slightly shocked at how much they dominated us for large parts of the game and how much more organised they looked. Keith Hill has managed to recruit some very good players in a short space of time where as we’re constantly told you have to wait for months to get decent players.

Preparing a team for one game is one thing, doing it throughout the season is another. In the same way you often see a non-league team getting one over a high league team in the cup, it rarely continues into future games. As much as I thought we should have one easily before the game, and still feel we weren't good enough on the night, there's no denying that Bolton played well above themselves. They ran themselves into the ground, drives in to every tackle, hassled and hurried our players, and were a bloody nightmare all over the pitch. Technically they weren't great, missing loads of chances and gave away loads of chances at the back, but they got through on guts alone.

The mistake we made was not being able to change and adjust quickly enough. We started the second half well, patiently playing the ball around to pull Bolton out and create space for us to get behind them, which suggests that KR knew what was needed. But we weren't patient or disciplined enough to keep this up. I suspect other teams will set up very differently against Bolton as a result and hopefully it will be a valuable lesson for us to understand how to break down teams like this.
 
Bolton were always going to improve once they brought in some senior players, its just a shame that it had to happen against us.

Against Tranmere, we looked pretty good, even if they were pretty poor, but we looked a good side, consistency is the problem.

However, there are obvious problems with scoring goals, and that really needs addressing, as Taylor is clearly not suited to playing the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 formation, and would be much more suited to a 4-3-3, with more support.

It does seem strange that we played so well against Blackpool, using a 4-3-3 formation, and all we needed was a good striker to finish off the countless chances we were creating, so Robbo gets Taylor in, and immediately changes back to a 4-2-3-1, with Taylor as the lone striker WTF!!

And Mous is clearly better than Moore, it's no coincidence that since Mous has come back in, the whole defence has looked better, still not great, but better, with two clean sheets on the bounce, but whats the betting that as soon as Moore is fit again, Robbo will put him straight back in?!?

And if we are going to bring in any free agents, please god let it be an experienced striker or CB, or both, but please Robbo, not another bloody midfielder!!

But that said, and as frustrating as Robbo's decision making can be, I do think a bit of perspective is needed here, it's only September, and we're not even ten games into the season yet, we've just picked up 4 points from the last 2 games, and kept 2 clean sheets in the process, it's not been great form, but it's no crisis yet, we've got good players, a passionate manager, and a supportive board, who are also looking to finally sort our long standing stadium problems, things could be a lot worse, just ask Bury fans.
 
Can’t agree with that. Some of the build up play has been outstanding and a joy to watch. Frustrating that we can’t finish consistently of course.

Last night’s result was disappointing, but that is the second clean sheet for a defence that has struggled for the past few games. Playing Bolton in their first home game since the takeover, and subsequent signings, was never going to be easy.

You are talking about a team who have been whipped in all games bar one, 6-1 or so last weekend, and have dire injury worries amongst their group of players.
To simply get a clean sheet, is not good enough, therefore. kr knows we should be comfortably beating a team in their situation , as so many others have this season. He spins it again though, as he knows he is as safe as houses, at the moment.
 
You are talking about a team who have been whipped in all games bar one, 6-1 or so last weekend, and have dire injury worries amongst their group of players.
To simply get a clean sheet, is not good enough, therefore. kr knows we should be comfortably beating a team in their situation , as so many others have this season. He spins it again though, as he knows he is as safe as houses, at the moment.
Disappointing = not good enough
So we are in agreement again ?
 
a supportive board, who are also looking to finally sort our long standing stadium problems, things could be a lot worse, just ask Bury fans.
Isn't that what the Bury fans were thinking a couple of seasons ago when they had a supportive board spending money, as for the stadium situation I wonder how long certain board members will hang around if a property deal can't be sorted that suits them.
The Wup's seem a distant memory for some people, I'm not convinced as much as things have not been fixed on the pitch that things have been fixed off it either.
 
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You are talking about a team who have been whipped in all games bar one, 6-1 or so last weekend, and have dire injury worries amongst their group of players.
To simply get a clean sheet, is not good enough, therefore. kr knows we should be comfortably beating a team in their situation , as so many others have this season. He spins it again though, as he knows he is as safe as houses, at the moment.

No I don’t agree, Bolton as a club have been on the wrong end of some ferocious beatings this season, but we played against the start of their rebuilding process with a large passionate crowd behind them. I think they could turn the points deficit round and stay up. As said above it was just our luck we had to play them as they start to progress. We didn’t play against their youth team as some other sides have.
 
The good thing though, as Robbo states this morning, is that we did make some "outstanding blocks".

So thats all right then. One game we will combine our lovely passing, out of this world blocks, glorious effort, and actually win a game of football.
 
The good thing though, as Robbo states this morning, is that we did make some "outstanding blocks".

So thats all right then. One game we will combine our lovely passing, out of this world blocks, glorious effort, and actually win a game of football.
Oh like last Saturday then? Shame you missed it
 

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