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The point was that I was somehow being blamed for the defeat by one of our local idiots!! My point was, whilst I was optimistic, a defeat wouldn't have been the greatest surprise based on our history and their form etc. So to therefore say that my predictions contributed to us losing is bizarre!
 
Good to see that people are somehow still remaining positive. We are underperforming hugely when compared to the likes of Wycombe, where Ainsworth is getting performances far greater than the sum of their parts.

Things are starting to take shape now and we have to face up to the fact its going to be another long old season. Were not very good, bang average at best. Our start has been utterly shocking and just adds to Robbos dire overall record with us.

I have seen plates of Spaghetti Bolognese with more tactical nous.

You've found our start shocking? Reading between the subtleties of your previous posts, I'd say you wouldn't be shocked at all

It doesn't take long to get into the season does it. I have to say, I have concerns about the coaching...the defensive issues are a major concern and I lay the blame for that squarely at KRs door. His style of play demands a lot from defenders, and its worrying to see how much of that style was supported by Nelson's solid defensive nous. Without it, we are getting picked apart. As I said after the Cov game, the defensive players are good, but they need to be drilled in the system and they are not.

We're also still a gnats wing from an 'injury crisis with every game. Have we been able to play our best 11 yet? As we said, repeatedly and endlessly over the summer...the business needed doing early. And our best 11 wasnt ready until after the season had started...

There is, as ever, bags of potential. But I have to agree that, the issues with the team at the minute are all things that KR could do better.
 
We have had a poor start , obviously and haven't been helped by hard fixtures thats for sure. I'm sure that we will improve and put a run together but its soooo frustrating to be struggling so early again.
 
The point was that I was somehow being blamed for the defeat by one of our local idiots!! My point was, whilst I was optimistic, a defeat wouldn't have been the greatest surprise based on our history and their form etc. So to therefore say that my predictions contributed to us losing is bizarre!
Here’s the thing, you demanded respect with the info feed out of the club, gloat when you/they get things right, then are quite happy to attack our fans and their opinions.
You are fast becoming marmite, people will start taking their frustrations of the club out on you as you have happily taken to spouting the clubs leaked/fed info.
 
Here’s the thing, you demanded respect with the info feed out of the club, gloat when you/they get things right, then are quite happy to attack our fans and their opinions.
You are fast becoming marmite, people will start taking their frustrations of the club out on you as you have happily taken to spouting the clubs leaked/fed info.
I don't demand anything, don't speak for the club and certainly have no influence over results!!

If it makes you feel better to take your frustrations out on me, then crack on! But it's entirely pointless to say the least!
 
Here’s the thing, you demanded respect with the info feed out of the club, gloat when you/they get things right, then are quite happy to attack our fans and their opinions.
You are fast becoming marmite, people will start taking their frustrations of the club out on you as you have happily taken to spouting the clubs leaked/fed info.
Indeed - Scotchegg would have been on here declaring himself better than others for 'believing' if we'd won today!
 
Absolute rubbish, today was the first game he has been able to attend due to family issues. I saw him there today. Even Jerome has defended him in the past, against your bland sweeping statement. Did you actually hear what he said?
Yes every word.
You have your opinion and I will have mine ok.
 
I think we should start playing 5 1 3 1 and have 3 centre backs. I know this is not very popular with some people but we are shipping too many goals and something has to be done. Have Dickie, Mous and Moore as the 3 centre backs, Cadden and Ruffles as wing backs, Gorrin in front of them, 3 midfielders, Brannagan, Henry and Baptiste and Taylor upfront when he's fit.
 
It's called optimism!!! We have generally played better against the better teams. We were the better side against Sunderland, Peterborough, Blackpool and Coventry. We made some simple mistakes at the back and in front of goal, and it wasn't beyond the imagination to see how we could have eradicated those mistakes at the back and taking our chances up front. So, I did feel confident/hopefully/optimistic that we could get a result that our performances have generally deserved.

Did that mean it would happen? Did the forum all rush out and bet their life savings on an away win? Did KR or the players think it was a walk in the park because of my predictions? Of course not!!

My default position was, is and will be, optimistic and I won't apologise for it. I'd rather hope for the best and be disappointed rather than expect the worst and come running on here to take some weird satisfaction in being proved right.

Nothing wrong with being optimistic and no one is asking you to apologise for it! But to say you were very confident of a win pre match and then post match in effect say a defeat wasn’t a surprise is just a bit weird.

The blind optimism in most of your posts is almost as senseless as those who continually post negative views.

I got shot down early in the season when I said I don’t rate Robinson as a manager. There is plenty to admire about him but I just think he is a very average manager at best.

We’ve had another slow start, I think tactically more managers outperform him than vice versa and I think we have an unbalanced squad. We have signed some good players though which makes our start in the league even more frustrating.

I really hope Robinson does the business but I just don’t think he will.

Before anyone says it, yes you do get more comments / noise on here when things don’t go to plan. That happens in every walk of life.
 
It's called optimism!!! We have generally played better against the better teams. We were the better side against Sunderland, Peterborough, Blackpool and Coventry. We made some simple mistakes at the back and in front of goal, and it wasn't beyond the imagination to see how we could have

eradicated those mistakes at the back and taking our chances up front. So, I did feel confident/hopefully/optimistic that we could get a result that our performances have generally deserved.

Did that mean it would happen? Did the forum all rush out and bet their life savings on an away win? Did KR or the players think it was a walk in the park because of my predictions? Of course not!!

My default position was, is and will be, optimistic and I won't apologise for it. I'd rather hope for the best and be disappointed rather than expect the worst and come running on here to take some weird satisfaction in being proved right.

I feel conned scotchers there are some on here that think what you say will actually happen. So it must all be down to you. That’s it house gone, life savings gone, ffs bookie felt sorry for me do he gave me back the mrs. Lol seriously though you are only expressing your own personal views and I can’t see why anyone else would have a problem with that. Ok result wasn’t what we wanted or expected, yes I think we are under performing, no I’m not happy but in KR I trust. Mind I have no choice. I dint Tiger and it ain’t my ££££ that’s bank rolling the club.
 
Problem with settling for a draw too early (as his first two subs indicated) is that you leave very little room to change things when it goes tits up. Too many mistakes from both players and management at present
 
The issue is that people who don’t predict some sort of miracle score week in week out or question the club are pounced upon on this forum. It’s no surprise that they turn round and call out those who belittle them when they’re proved right.

Exactly the same when posters gloat when they get a signing right or we win and say “oh he’s probably at the skip”.

We have a good squad who are under performing, the squad though is lacking in areas we all said needed to be sorted out.

Other than when very young at the Manor I’ve not seen us in a higher position than League 1 so it’s great all of you that think we’re some sort of sleeping giant but a lot of us don’t see us any better than we are now. If people want to strive for better and provide reasons why we aren’t good enough then fair play.

Some sort of head in sand/blind optimism gets us absolutely no where!! As is being witnessed in other parts of our lives at the moment.
 
Anyone know what our budget is compared to other teams in our league. That provides a good indication to how the manager is performing.
 
Well I don’t know. I’m quite simple and don’t really understand the number 10 role. I know we’re light up front and Henry is one of our main men who has to be used correctly. When he plays well we usually do well. And is Cadden all that? He runs up and down and hits crosses that are blocked for corners, but they aren’t leading to goals. Someone far cleverer than me needs to sort it out - we’re not a million miles off.
 
I am concerned like everyone.
We still look vulnerable on the counter attack. We are conceding too many goals and there is still a worrying lack of bite to our forward play. We have pretty much used Brannagan as a pit pony in the opening games and it is inevitable that the very high work rate that he has undertaken will/has taken its toll.

However, We do have Taylor to come back. Agyei and Fosu (and Taylor) will need to be wisely and sparingly returned if we are to get good game time out of them later in to the season.

It is disappointing to see another poor start from us, especially considering the decent football that we have played at times this season.
KR has to take his share of the blame for it.
I feel that he has been a little slow to address the mistakes that have been, at times, obvious.
We are not broken, but we certainly need to be stronger and tighter and maybe a little less gung ho if we are to get back to winning ways.
No dolls or KR out of the pram just yet, but this team has got to be made solid sharpish.
 
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I don't demand anything, don't speak for the club and certainly have no influence over results!!

If it makes you feel better to take your frustrations out on me, then crack on! But it's entirely pointless to say the least!
I think people can make their own mind up on you.
As for the information you continually put on here, unless you actually work for the club how can you say it’s not fed to you, injuries, signings, ground, training ground even willing to bet a large amount of money on something happening at the club, you really expect people to swallow all that info is all your own guesswork, I know you have a high opinion of yourself but really..
 
Much as he would like it to be, this thread is not about ScotchEgg.
On today's evidence we look capable of just about avoiding relegation, but we don't look good enough to be a mid-table team either.
With Fleetwood missing a couple of gilt-edged chances, we could have come away with a point if we had had a striker. There were two great crosses into the box from Cadden and Forde midway through the second half, but no threatening presence whatsoever to convert the chances.
Mackie was woeful from start to finish and he didn't seem to be bothered about the usual things you expect in a captain, like geeing his team mates up or leading by example.
KR got a few things wrong today. James Henry seemed to be playing alongside Mackie or just behind him, a waste of Henry's talents. Baptiste needed subbing long before he was eventually taken off, he put in plenty of effort but looked off the pace. In fact all the subbing decisions looked questionable (Gorrin should have stayed on...maybe an injury?).
I missed KR's post-match comments but it seems he is saying we were the better team. Ridiculous: Fleetwood looked like they had a whole gear more than us, and eventually they used it.
 
Until we stop this “we must score two goals to even stand a chance of taking a point” nonsense that ruined so much of last season, and is now rearing its head once more this time out, we will never get anywhere. Simple facts. We changed how we played at the back end of last season and went on a great run. Ditto the season before when we won something like three of the last four to guarantee safety. There’s no point digging holes for ourselves in the first half of the season and leaving ourselves with survival as the only reasonable aim. We need results to build on - period. It’s gone on long enough now. We need to start building momentum, not chasing it when it’s needed for survival rather than progress, or the whole damn thing is pointless. I was as impressed as anybody after Blackpool, and indeed the signing of Matty Taylor (the injury is just damn unfortunate), but our performances since then have been unconvincing. We followed that up with throwing away a lead to concede four at home to Burton and then did the same while conceding three at Bristol. We also conceded three at home to Coventry and were lucky to only concede two today after totally ballsing up every last substitution. It isn’t good enough. The manager needs to take responsibility and so do the players. This can’t be how our seasons go as standard, namely horrendous starts and then a whole season of simply aiming to stay in the same league we started in. We can’t start each game effectively 2-0 down. We can’t have a situation where it’s always okay and we’re just one bobble or one header away from glory. I’ve lost count of how many different types of goals apparently don’t count. Set pieces don’t count, nor shots from distance, nor shots from a slip or a lapse in concentration and so on. According to our manager basically no goals count. Well, they do. And so far we are conceding too many almost weekly, and more often than not we are conceding more than we score. So sod what type of goals are going in, and stop them actually GOING in. Then we can start to move forward.

I’m hopeful we will take six points from the next two games, but FFS, this is such a letdown given some of the players we’ve pushed the boat out for late doors. We need to get results before we fall too far behind the pack. The first 11 games killed our entire season last time. Well, we’re seven in this term, and we are basically in exactly the same spot. It isn’t OTT to suggest we are two or three games from writing the season off and resigning ourselves to another battle to just make sure we stay in this league. And that’s really sad, because money has been spent and desires have been backed.

Time to get this thing going.
 
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