Transfer News Transfer targets summer 2019

Pooleox · 17 Jul 2019

Just to say I’m not disgruntled! The club are in a very competitive area when seeking good players. Best of luck to them as they pursue the right player for the club.

Deleted member 142 · 17 Jul 2019

Scotchegg said:
How do I know Robinson is happy in his role? I spoke with him at the end of last year when we had all the financial issues. He said that as manager it was his job to be the figurehead, to support all aspects of the club from going to u18 games, talking to staff in the ticket office, looking at new players and talking to the media. He saw himself in the mould of someone like Ferguson who had a handle on everything from top to bottom. He said that it was knackering but that's what he loved.

As for the disgruntled fan base? I speak with large numbers of fans who are not on the forum. All are desperate for new signings, but most recognise that the transfer window is chaotic and know that we won't get everyone we're after. All can't wait for the start of the season and expect that we will be competitive when it matters. Aside from the usual posters on here, I genuinely don't feel that the wider fan group is any more disgruntled or negative than before.

I said that our transfer process worked well in January and had some successes in the summer. This shows that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with our recruitment.

How do I know about the standard of players we will bring in, or the financial support being offered by Tiger? Look at who we've got already and those we are being linked too. We are competing with the likes of Sunderland and although we won't waste money we certainly are not doing anything on the cheap.

You are able to make your own judgement on whether posts are overly positive or negative. However, I am confident that my positivity will prove to be valid once the window closes and we can see the business done in it's entirety.

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Reynolds97 · 17 Jul 2019

Scotchegg said:
How do I know Robinson is happy in his role? I spoke with him at the end of last year when we had all the financial issues. He said that as manager it was his job to be the figurehead, to support all aspects of the club from going to u18 games, talking to staff in the ticket office, looking at new players and talking to the media. He saw himself in the mould of someone like Ferguson who had a handle on everything from top to bottom. He said that it was knackering but that's what he loved.

As for the disgruntled fan base? I speak with large numbers of fans who are not on the forum. All are desperate for new signings, but most recognise that the transfer window is chaotic and know that we won't get everyone we're after. All can't wait for the start of the season and expect that we will be competitive when it matters. Aside from the usual posters on here, I genuinely don't feel that the wider fan group is any more disgruntled or negative than before.

I said that our transfer process worked well in January and had some successes in the summer. This shows that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with our recruitment.

How do I know about the standard of players we will bring in, or the financial support being offered by Tiger? Look at who we've got already and those we are being linked too. We are competing with the likes of Sunderland and although we won't waste money we certainly are not doing anything on the cheap.

You are able to make your own judgement on whether posts are overly positive or negative. However, I am confident that my positivity will prove to be valid once the window closes and we can see the business done in it's entirety.

He didn't compare himself to Alex Ferguson did he?!

battman · 17 Jul 2019

BickyStickler said:
9 goals and 5 assists in 44 games, but "he wasn't all that". Turn it up. He was equal second in the golden boot for the club last season.

I’m not saying he was rubbish, it just felt like that he only played well when the rest around him played well. How many times did he grab the bull by the horns and completely transform a game we were struggling in? Henry did that more times than him last season.

9 and 5 in 44 isn’t bad at all, but the way people are talking on here it’s like he did double that.

Upthecowboys · 17 Jul 2019

HampshireYellow said:
Imagine if we got Browne, Cadden, Evans and a great CB... there would be a few servings of humble pie eaten on here!!

Sorry I’m not going to be jumping up shouting Tigers praises if we sign those players but it will be a start.

We have 1 half fit centre forward, 1 loan (Evans) as a replacement isn’t enough. We’ve lost a stand out centre half, who if replaced by a quality like for like then we are as we were. Browne would be a good signing but did have injuries and Cadden could in effect be a 6 month loan.

We all understand that the loans will come in late, that is the way it works everywhere. I reckon the loans will be inexperienced youngsters which is always a gamble.

I would eat humble pie if we signed these:-

1) Permanent centre back.

2) Permanent effective centre back as cover - surely we need 3 experienced centre backs fighting for 2 places (not sure if the ex Walsall player is good enough)

3) Permanent centre forward, likely to require a fee. Someone who has scored in Div 1, up and coming striker from league 2 etc.

4) Permanent right back. In the Baldock mode who can add a dimension going forward. Let him and Long fight it out.

Sign those then 2 or 3 loans - centre forward being one - and I’ll eat humble pie. Don’t forget we’re likely to pick up injuries - based on previous seasons it is unlikely we’ll get 30 games out of Hall, Mackie etc.

No one seems to be suggesting we should spend recklessly but the money saved on the likes of Holmes, Carruthers must mean there is a decent portion of the budget left - that is if we are going to have a budget similar / slightly less than last season.

It is difficult getting deals done early but KR and Tiger have said doing it earlier this year was one of the lessons learnt.

Shropshire U · 17 Jul 2019

Scotchegg said:
You are able to make your own judgement on whether posts are overly positive or negative. However, I am confident that my positivity will prove to be valid once the window closes and we can see the business done in it's entirety.

The trouble is that an unquestioning insistence on "positive" easily crosses a line into "complacent".

ljs · 17 Jul 2019

I can't believe we would start a season with only an aged half fit striker and a loanee as our centre forward options... But it looks like we might.

Whyte is not a centre forward, so please let's not move him from his more effective and proper position.

Having just those options when we've known all about our centre forward problems for over a year would not be positive.

Thomas/Brock/Jones · 17 Jul 2019

I can get that getting hold of the quality players will be hard and patience required, I would have hoped to have at least another centre forward in the building though young up and coming as we are very thin squad wise. Hopefully the trust shown in the youth will allay those fears of an extremely thin squad

Foley · 17 Jul 2019

ljs said:
Whyte is not a centre forward, so please let's not move him from his more effective and proper position.

I assume that you didn't go to Shrewsbury where Whyte scored a hat trick and where, as a CF he caused the defence chaos?
Now he may not end up as a centre forward but I am not sure how you can write this possibility off?
A certain Thierry Henry started as a winger/ wide man and he wasnt bad as a CF (no I am not remotely suggesting g that Whyte could be as good as Henry!!)

Brahma · 17 Jul 2019

Scotchegg said:
I'm not being funny but what do you expect? Tiger to tell us how he's been googling left footed centre backs? NMW giving his assessment on strikers?

Our managerial structure is what we have. Robinson is more than happy being the figurehead of the club and will bring in the players as they become available. It worked in January, and it will work this summer. Tiger has and will continue to back him financially, and that's all that matters.

As for a growing, disgruntled fan base? We have the same negative posters moaning during this transfer window as we have moaned in every other transfer window before, and every one to come. That's hardly reflective of our fan base as a whole and will all be forgotten once the season starts with the standard of players we will bring in.

A sensible adult debate is good.

Karl got a bucket load of stick last year, having been pushed to the front, having to deal with transfer frustration, hmrc episodes, future board and potential investment and non payment of wages.

You rarely heard from anyone else.

Whilst now he's having to explain and justify the slow progress in transfer activity (citing further board level recruitment meetings and general explanation of why players are taking their time) the MD and Tiger continue to say very little. Like it or not, leadership from above Karl is limited, in a public sense.

Karl is actually doing a superb job for the club.

I think 16 likes to my previous post is a reflection. I think your friends who are positive but desperate for new signings aren't, by association of the word desperate, clapping in glee.

It's not Karl's money so he needs support. It's not probably Tiger's money either..... but that's another debate.

Cadden has been at our club for nearly three weeks.......watching pre season, etc. If we've done that loan deal, a simple explanation of the delay is fine..... International clearance?

I don't know if it's done or not but fans see this lad about so clarity would be helpful.

Currently it's difficult to see that this Transfer Window is no better than last summers, the one that the senior management continually apologised for.

Victor1986 · 17 Jul 2019

Agree Simon. KR is Head Cook & Bottlewasher though isn't he & I do feel for him. The Cadden situation needs some sort of simple statement from the club to stop the moaners.

horseman · 17 Jul 2019

Simon Bradders said:
A sensible adult debate is good.

Karl got a bucket load of stick last year, having been pushed to the front, having to deal with transfer frustration, hmrc episodes, future board and potential investment and non payment of wages.

You rarely heard from anyone else.

Whilst now he's having to explain and justify the slow progress in transfer activity (citing further board level recruitment meetings and general explanation of why players are taking their time) the MD and Tiger continue to say very little. Like it or not, leadership from above Karl is limited, in a public sense.

Karl is actually doing a superb job for the club.

I think 16 likes to my previous post is a reflection. I think your friends who are positive but desperate for new signings aren't, by association of the word desperate, clapping in glee.

It's not Karl's money so he needs support. It's not probably Tiger's money either..... but that's another debate.

Cadden has been at our club for nearly three weeks.......watching pre season, etc. If we've done that loan deal, a simple explanation of the delay is fine..... International clearance?

I don't know if it's done or not but fans see this lad about so clarity would be helpful.

Currently it's difficult to see that this Transfer Window is no better than last summers, the one that the senior management continually apologised for.

that is most unfair on Tiger, he was only about a month ago he reminded people to buy season tickets

what more do you expect during a transfer window

OX18 · 17 Jul 2019

Victor1986 said:
Agree Simon. KR is Head Cook & Bottlewasher though isn't he & I do feel for him. The Cadden situation needs some sort of simple statement from the club to stop the moaners.

We could be in the same situation as the Rangers game. If he has signed for the Yanks, then just maybe it is them stopping any announcement. Like Simon, I think Carl is doing the best you can expect. Clearly very testing time for him and with no Chairman on hand to divert some flack, to some he is wrong if he says anything and equally wrong if he dosen't.

Mellowyellow · 17 Jul 2019

yellowbow said:
Robinson tonight: we’ve put bids in for three players, striker (loan) Winger (permanent) and CB (permanent) Ideally he doesn’t want to wait too long to get them over the line but he’s prepared to be patient to get them.

He then went on to say the loan market opens after the window shuts so if he loses the striker there’ll be other deals out there. Doesn’t sound as though we’ll sign a permanent striker.

If we dont bring in 2 strikers we will be in the same position before Sinclair arrived. Just Mackie as the known striker which would be crazy. Does kr not learn from last season.

Mellowyellow · 17 Jul 2019

greatunclekip said:
Well what a load of B*****s.

We need more than 3 players to even have a small squad.

Finlandia · 17 Jul 2019

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Mellowyellow said:
We need more than 3 players to even have a small squad.

Three perm with more loanees to fill the squad later in the window

bazzer9461 · 17 Jul 2019

Hasn’t seen it before now so apologies if already mentioned.
KR admitting defeat in the Findlay deal

headingtonoldboy · 17 Jul 2019

Mellowyellow said:
If we dont bring in 2 strikers we will be in the same position before Sinclair arrived. Just Mackie as the known striker which would be crazy. Does kr not learn from last season.

Of course he has learnt from last season that's why he has been talking to 2 strikers but you can't force players to join our club if they don't want to come for some reason. It's not rocket science.

Mystery Yellow · 17 Jul 2019

Finlandia said:
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Three perm with more loanees to fill the squad later in the window

I don’t understand why loan players from Premiership clubs is going to the last minute this season when we signed Luke Garbutt & Marcus Browne during pre season last season

Foley · 17 Jul 2019

Mystery Yellow said:
I don’t understand why loan players from Premiership clubs is going to the last minute this season when we signed Luke Garbutt & Marcus Browne during pre season last season

Browne signed on 24 July.
I don't think that all loans are complete late, but it seems to be recognised that many PL clubs go through pre season then decide who to loan out.
This appears to be the way things normally happen

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