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Brexit - Deal or No Deal?

  • Deal

    Votes: 51 29.1%
  • No Deal

    Votes: 77 44.0%
  • Call in the Donald

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Call in Noel Edmonds

    Votes: 8 4.6%
  • I don't care anymore

    Votes: 37 21.1%

  • Total voters
    175
No - that's direct democracy. That's Switzerland. Britain isn't a direct democracy, it's a representative democracy.

The government's job is absolutely to serve the British people.....and if they believe that thne best way to serve the people is to ignore the non-binding result of a referendum, that most of all revealed Britain to be a deeply and evenly divided nation on this issue, then it is absolutely within their job description to do so. They then face the consequences of those actions at the next election.

Which actually I'm now at the point of thinking is what this country needs - get the delay until June 30th and immediately call a general election.
Everyone now knows how their MP has voted on Brexit, and therefore we can all vote accordingly in a General Election.
If all the MPs that defied their constituencies' referendum wishes and voted against Brexit, and against No Deal, then lose their seats in favour of Brexit-supporting candidates then we know that No Deal Brexit is the people's wish and we can leave accordingly.
If a large number of MPs that voted in favour of No Deal lose their seats in favour of pro-Remain candidates, then we can revoke Article 50 and cancel Brexit.
If we end up with a parliament that's just as divided as the current one - then we know that it properly reflects the opinions of the people, and then the government can go ahead and continue muddling on as they have been doing.

But that is how our democracy is supposed to work. Representatives making decisions on our behalf, and then facing the consequences if the majority of their constituents disagree. We now know what the viewpoint of each and every MP is, because it's on record many times over the past two weeks; so perfect time for another election with all of us voters being armed with that information.


I agree with a short delay 2-3 months only. Any longer than that, then we won’t be leaving which imo will cause chaos.

Anyway I’d like to see May relieved of her duties. She’s massively out of her depth. Her biggest mistake was when she went to Brussels with cap in hand saying “what can you give us” she should of said “this is what we want” It should of been a Brexiteer put in as PM to follow this through.
 
I heard about Trump junior’s thoughts while listening to the LBC show. Whether or not people think he’s interfering in things that don’t concern him. He’s absolutely correct.
 
This country voted to leave so I don’t understand why so many of our MPs are against it. That’s not democracy it’s party politics!!
 
I agree with a short delay 2-3 months only. Any longer than that, then we won’t be leaving which imo will cause chaos.

Anyway I’d like to see May relieved of her duties. She’s massively out of her depth. Her biggest mistake was when she went to Brussels with cap in hand saying “what can you give us” she should of said “this is what we want” It should of (sic) been a Brexiteer put in as PM to follow this through.
None of the high profile Brexiteers from the campaign stood in the election to replace Cameron as PM, for their own personal reasons that we can all specualte over, hence the option to have one in charge of negotiations did not exist...
 
And so the daily farce continues....

Tusk has just said that if the UK wants a short extension then the meaningful vote needs to pass next week. But this doesn’t totally rule out the idea of a longer extension.

Hasn’t May already indicated that she will resign if a longer extension is the option?

Longer extension would surely suit remainers very nicely. BRINO it is then?
 
None of the high profile Brexiteers from the campaign stood in the election to replace Cameron as PM, for their own personal reasons that we can all specualte over, hence the option to have one in charge of negotiations did not exist...


Funny that...
 
None of the high profile Brexiteers from the campaign stood in the election to replace Cameron as PM, for their own personal reasons that we can all specualte over, hence the option to have one in charge of negotiations did not exist...

Actually, Leadsom and Gove finished 2nd and 3rd in the voting, and I'd say they were both Top 5 highest profile Tory Brexiteers.

On the broader issue - it looks like May is going to push all her chips into the center of the table next week, with her third attempt to get the deal through. Clearly she's only got Ace high, and I suspect that parliament is going to call her on it - but what the hell happens then is anyone's guess.

When the referendum results came in, I had pretty low expectations for how well the UK government was going to run the Brexit process. In the end, they've been much, much worse than I feared.
 
I don't agree. I DO agree that in normal times, that is how our democracy is set up. But this whole debacle is the over-riding issue at the moment, and whether or not any GE is set up as a second referendum - that is exactly how it will be treated. And if none of the candidates in my constituency offer me the chance to vote - on this one issue - the way I want then I am entirely disenfranchised. That's quite often the case for many people in every general election of course (for example Tory voters in solid Labour seats and vice versa, most people who support a minority party) and a potent argument for PR - which would also IMO lead to a more consensual, grown up and modern parliament.

Agree wholeheartedly about PR - but of course the option for that any time soon got nixed by the other referendum of the last decade. Because referendums suck :mad:.

I'd almost guarantee that the Lib Dems will field a candidate everywhere that will be pro-EU, and that UKIP will field a candidate everywhere that has a pro-Remain MP. So if you want to prioritise the Brexit issue, then there'll be someone you can vote for wherever you live in the UK.

If other issues are more important to you, you can vote Tory or Labour or whomever reflects your general opinion best. Although I struggle to see why anyone would cast a vote for either party at the moment...….
 
Agree wholeheartedly about PR - but of course the option for that any time soon got nixed by the other referendum of the last decade. Because referendums suck :mad:.

I'd almost guarantee that the Lib Dems will field a candidate everywhere that will be pro-EU, and that UKIP will field a candidate everywhere that has a pro-Remain MP. So if you want to prioritise the Brexit issue, then there'll be someone you can vote for wherever you live in the UK.

If other issues are more important to you, you can vote Tory or Labour or whomever reflects your general opinion best. Although I struggle to see why anyone would cast a vote for either party at the moment...….

About time they included "none of the above" to allow people to show their dissatisfaction.
 
Jeremy Corbyn refused to join meeting with opposition leaders because Chuka Umunna was there. “He’s not a proper party leader”. Corbyn walked out.

We are in the middle of a national crisis and the leader of the opposition is behaving like a 12 year old. Beggars belief.
 
The slurry Tories won't allow us to have a people's vote, on the pretence that it will divide the country. f**k me! The slurry scum Tories started all this by allowing a vote in the first place! And Maggie May wants a third bite of the cherry with her 'do it my way' meaningless vote, whist slagging off those people who can't take defeat (52% v 48%)? Hypocritical or what? THAT beggars belief!!
Just imagine all the pig-noise squealing the slurry scum pathetic Tories would have made, and the slurry scum pathetic tory-loving, ass-kissing newspaper bog-rolls had printed, if Labour were the government f*****g the Brexit process up!!
As long as Corbyn isn't the leader, I can't wait for the next general election, whenever that is.
 
Jeremy Corbyn refused to join meeting with opposition leaders because Chuka Umunna was there. “He’s not a proper party leader”. Corbyn walked out.

We are in the middle of a national crisis and the leader of the opposition is behaving like a 12 year old. Beggars belief.

Exactly... And this is someone who believed he could negotiate better exit terms!!

Prize winning utter t**t amongst many utter twats. No one is coming out of this with any credibility.

Shambolic and embarrassing beyond believe. How can any country ever take us seriously again.
 
Jeremy Corbyn refused to join meeting with opposition leaders because Chuka Umunna was there. “He’s not a proper party leader”. Corbyn walked out.

We are in the middle of a national crisis and the leader of the opposition is behaving like a 12 year old. Beggars belief.
I'll meet with Hamas, meet with the IRA (to ensure all voices are heard) but I won't meet with Chukka cause he ain't an official leader and I'll flounce off. It's stunningly hilarious from the 2nd most incompetent leader in UK politics today at the most inopportune time. In some respects, that move has put him in 1st place.

As such, it sums up what an awful mess the politicians have made with Brexit.

I feel sorry for the local councillors who will be knocking on a lot of front doors to canvas for votes in the local elections in May and get their ear bent over their national colleagues behaviour on Brexit.
 
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