HMRC?

If the service debt was accumulated on Eales watch, would they not deduct it from his wedge he is owed from future transfers.
You'd hope so but what if Eales still disputed it? Maybe it's best to wipe the slate clean because the club can't progress without it.
 
If the service debt was accumulated on Eales watch, would they not deduct it from his wedge he is owed from future transfers.
Hopefully ...after all DE said there would be no debts on his watch or words to that effect?

Didn't he?
 
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Nothing to do with DE -if it was wasn’t picked up during due diligence then tough
 
A lot of us have got quite angry with what we perceive as very worrying times at OUFC over the last month or so ( some for longer than that). The worries have all been legitimate due to the lack of any real information coming out of the club. Tiger and the rest of the board - I would hope! - would accept that things could be handled differently. The little snippets about money for signings and stadium developments, for example have been mistakes. Carrots should not be dangled unless they’re ready to eat! However, after reading KRs comments yesterday, I’ve decided to cool my jets, take a deep breath and see what transpires - for the time being. This comment in particular from KR interests me:

“There are just one or two complications in certain little things that we’re looking into and maybe changing to not let it happen again.”

He added: “We’re concerned that they (the fans) are concerned.

“That’s what we’re looking at, we’re having meetings this week and next week to see if we can be more open and allow people to know where we’re at.”

I get the impression we’re close to hearing what the end game to all of this is. Hopefully they’re discussing what and how much they can let out of the bag at the moment.

The well of tolerance from the fanbase is close to running dry, they can’t keep on telling us that ‘things are happening, we’ll tell you all about it soon’ and it’s only right that, as true supporters of the club, we keep a watchful eye, but the sheer magnitude of what we all want and hope to be unfolding, regarding the stadium situation, means that a lot has had to be kept under wraps. Let’s hope we hear about developments soon.

In short, I think we should allow Tiger a little more time to get his house in order, and trust that things are moving forward behind the scenes. But he should know that we won’t be taken for a ride again. Oxvox’s stance has been spot on. Maybe a message with a sensible deadline for information imposed should be the next step?


Wise words and said from a place of calm disposition ....and in hope of the benefit of the doubt paying dividend through a little patience. Very valid position to take.


However personally my gut instinct is the guy is full of s**t and making this up as he goes along.
 
Wise words and said from a place of calm disposition ....and in hope of the benefit of the doubt paying dividend through a little patience. Very valid position to take.


However personally my gut instinct is the guy is full of s**t and making this up as he goes along.

I agree, you don’t let a smallish bill from HMRC go unpaid if you’re talking about grandeur projects such as purchasing stadiums etc.

And if KR knows the situation e.g. bigger picture then why would he have had concerns to raise with Tiger.

Regarding the club saying they want to avoid this (unpaid tax bill) happening again and that they’re going to address this, basically means in my eyes that minimal funds will be made available within the budget, but I guess we’ll wait and see. Still doesn’t answer why the whole issue wasn’t addressed before it got to the stage it did.

The signs so far indicate that Tiger doesn’t have the free cash flow e.g. struggled to get monies to purchase the club, poor summer transfer window and two late payments of tax bills.

The next 6 weeks or so could be quite telling e.g. hopefully nothing else crops up before the 19th December and the January transfer window. Oh, and hopefully not another tax bill!!
 
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Memory & evidently my (probably selective) hearing both a bit faulty ....nowt new there:rolleyes:

You’re actually not wrong Sarge as Darryl said at an open fans meeting that he would write off any debt accrued on his watch. I’m sure @MarkG or @myles could expand further and I’ll be interested to see if he stuck to that promise when the next accounts are published
 
So Kitson said that the club were always talking about a move away from the club but now it seems like it could really happen. Is that gospel or just exactly the same guesswork we've all had?
I suspect it's informed guesswork on his part. But undoubtedly spot on as everyone can see how awful the Stadium situation is for the club.
 
Tiger doesn’t have the money for a new ground anywhere, it would be a disaster and the end of the club to relocate “temporarily” to somewhere, we would never come back and die.

At least at the moment we play in Oxford, better to be in a bad deal but in a ground in a tolerable location than be moved away to a ridiculous place like Milton Keynes while our Walter Mitty owner doesn’t pay the bills.

The stadium situation needs sorting, but it will wait for another (hopefully) more stable owner of the club.


And how many owners are waiting to take over a club in the bottom 6 of league one, with no assets and renting a shitty old stadium?!
 
And how many owners are waiting to take over a club in the bottom 6 of league one, with no assets and renting a shitty old stadium?!

Well we always seem to end up with a new owner every time the current one wants to sell, so more than zero? Unless you believe we have exhausted the well with tiger?

A better question might be who will want to buy us once we are ground sharing in Milton Keynes in front of 800 home fans with a barely started ground somewhere near Bicester and less tax paid than a site full of tinkers?
 
Who said we will ground share with MK?
All total speculation.


I was just using an example from a post above, but anything of that ilk is deadly to the club for me, bad enough under a stable regime but under this one?
 
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Man: (Michael Palin) Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, this is my first time.

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(Pause)

Receptionist: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.

Man: Thank you. (Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

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M: Oh! Oh I see!

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M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

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(The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.)

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Other Man:(John Cleese) I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't!

Other Man: Yes I have.

M: When?

O: Just now.

M: No you didn't!

O: Yes I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I'm telling you, I did!

M: You did not!

O: Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

O: Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not!

O: Now let's get one thing quite clear: I most definitely told you!

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O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!

(pause)

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

(pause)

M: It's just contradiction!

O: No it isn't!

M: It IS!

O: It is NOT!

M: You just contradicted me!

O: No I didn't!

M: You DID!

O: No no no!

M: You did just then!

O: Nonsense!

M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

(pause)

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is!

(pause)

M: I came here for a good argument!

O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can't!

M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn't just saying 'no it isn't'.

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

(The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.)

O: Thank you, that's it.

M: (stunned) What?

O: That's it. Good morning.

M: But I was just getting interested!

O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes just now!!

O: I'm afraid it was.

M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....

O: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

M: WHAT??

O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: But that was never five minutes just now!
Oh Come on!
Oh this is...
This is ridiculous!

O: I told you... I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.) There you are.

O: Thank you.

M: (clears throat) Well...

O: Well WHAT?

M: That was never five minutes just now.

O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

M: Well I just paid!

O: No you didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I don't want to argue about it!

O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!

M: Ah hah! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing??? Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

O: No you haven't!

M: Yes I have! If you're arguing, I must have paid.

O: Not necessarily. I *could* be arguing in my spare time.

M: I've had enough of this!

O: No you haven't.

M: Oh shut up!

Christ you have a photographic memory
 
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