Considering moving to Non League ground

bazzer9461 said:
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but if we were t look to play at an alternative venue instead of Grenoble right as surely we would have been tied interested a lease from r Grenoble road and would have to go at the outstanding rent for the remainder to f the lease.
I haven’t read all this thread before someone jumps down my throat...... just saying.
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You are right I believe but I guess this would be when the first 25 year licence expires which in the scheme of things isn't that far away.
 
bazzer9461 said:
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but if we were t look to play at an alternative venue instead of Grenoble right as surely we would have been tied interested a lease from r Grenoble road and would have to go at the outstanding rent for the remainder to f the lease.
I haven’t read all this thread before someone jumps down my throat...... just saying.
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It may be in Kassam's interests to pay us to leave.
 
I don't think he'd do that - but I am sure he'd be quite keen to use the land for making more money, so would be happy to mutually cancel the contract/lease.

Academic though - I can't think of any non-league ground we could realistically move to, even temporarily.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
I don't think he'd do that - but I am sure he'd be quite keen to use the land for making more money, so would be happy to mutually cancel the contract/lease.

Academic though - I can't think of any non-league ground we could realistically move to, even temporarily.
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Oxvox (?) implied that FK would be willing to pay the club to leave. That would be based on the land being worth significantly more if it wasnt needed for the stadium .
 
Foley said:
Oxvox (?) implied that FK would be willing to pay the club to leave. That would be based on the land being worth significantly more if it wasnt needed for the stadium .
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I stand corrected then. Although the fact remains - we haven't got anywhere to go to!
 
Foley said:
Oxvox (?) implied that FK would be willing to pay the club to leave. That would be based on the land being worth significantly more if it wasnt needed for the stadium .
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The problem with that is we haven’t any where to go and by that I mean a new ground for OUFC and not groundshare with a non league ground
 
The thing is Bazzer, I can't see how sharing with a non league ground is even possible. We have too much support, too many season ticket holders, league ground regulations to consider, too much car parking and transport requirement (especially if we were further away from the city), office space needed etc etc.
 
I don’t think we will have a problem getting out of the lease, Kassam can make much more from the land, but it’s finding both an alternative site to build a ground and somewhere to play in the meantime.

We could probably just suck it up and play in the Kassam getting ripped off while a ground is built, so that part isn’t a problem, don’t really need to play at a non league while we have years on the lease, it’s finding an acceptable site in one of the hardest places in the country to do so that is.

We need either a very, very rich owner or a big bit of luck really, otherwise it’s hard to see us pushing on.
 
Could this scenario work?
  • Ka$$am chucks OUFC some cash to vacate the concrete wind tunnel so the site can be developed for much needed housing.
  • Tiger uses the proceeds to acquire land in Bicester (or Water Eaton or wherever, but most likely outside of the city limits).
  • New board members Horst Geicke and Zaki Nuseibah help raise capital to develop this site: a new stadium alongside residential and commercial property.
  • OUFC temporarily play at the ground of a local non-league club, most likely Wycombe Wanderers (wahey!) during the construction phase.
  • Tiger and cohorts reap the financial rewards from the non-stadium aspects of the development (through the sale of property or on-going rental income).
  • In return, the club acquires a stadium without incurring debt and retains income generated within the stadium itself.
  • At some point Tiger will sell the club including the stadium so will also cash out here.
Only danger being that some sockless moron masquerading as a businessman agrees to purchase the club minus stadium and history repeats itself... Or indeed, Tiger charges the club to play at the newly built stadium. But lightning couldn't strike twice, could it?
 
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Navegante said:
Could this scenario work?
  • Ka$$am chucks OUFC some cash to vacate the concrete wind tunnel so the site can be developed for much needed housing.
  • Tiger uses the proceeds to acquire land in Bicester (or Water Eaton or wherever, but most likely outside of the city limits).
  • New board members Horst Geicke and Zaki Nuseibah help raise capital to develop this site: a new stadium alongside residential and commercial property.
  • OUFC temporarily play at the ground of a local non-league club, most likely Wycombe Wanderers (wahey!) during the construction phase.
  • Tiger and cohorts reap the financial rewards from the non-stadium aspects of the development (through the sale of property or on-going rental income).
  • In return, the club acquires a stadium without incurring debt and retains income generated within the stadium itself.
  • At some point Tiger will sell the club including the stadium so will also cash out here.
Only danger being that some sockless moron masquerading as a businessman agrees to purchase the club minus stadium and history repeats itself... Or indeed, Tiger charges the club to play at the newly built stadium. But lightning couldn't strike twice, could it?
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Kassam paying us to leave...like that's ever going to happen!
Still, we can dream I suppose.
 
Navegante said:
You do realize that he could make a lot more money turning the site into housing? And Oxford desperately needs more residential dwellings?
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Of course, but I'm sure Kassam - a man in legal mediation with this club who cares demonstrably not a jot about his fundamental obligations to us - wouldn't pay us a penny to leave of his own accord. If there was some kind of support from the council we may be able to work something out one way or the other, but that doesn't appear to be forthcoming at any rate either.

Love the plan, but don't see it working in the real world as of the status quo, unfortunately.
 
Berliner said:
Kassam paying us to leave...like that's ever going to happen!
Still, we can dream I suppose.
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One thing FK is not is stupid.
If he can make far more money by paying the club off to leave and get rid if the hassle he could do it.
 
holdsteady said:
I don’t think we will have a problem getting out of the lease, Kassam can make much more from the land, but it’s finding both an alternative site to build a ground and somewhere to play in the meantime.

We could probably just suck it up and play in the Kassam getting ripped off while a ground is built, so that part isn’t a problem, don’t really need to play at a non league while we have years on the lease, it’s finding an acceptable site in one of the hardest places in the country to do so that is.

We need either a very, very rich owner or a big bit of luck really, otherwise it’s hard to see us pushing on.
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It is a problem, who is going to finance the new stadium, is there some place the ground could be built, is planning permission a God given right and could it not be the same scenario as we have now over the stadium?
 
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That us why Oxvox were suggesting the Community asset to stop exactly that.
I wonder where that now stands?
 
Apart from that times article all stadium talk has gone completely quiet, that was the first snippet for months from anyone.
 
It's important to note that the license the club have to use the stadium is coming up for renewal in the near future, and that it would be for 25 years. Hence why perhaps FK may want us out to develop the land now, and offer an incentive to do so.
 
No non-league grounds that i can think of in the county that would be suitable without significant time and money.

So we'd be looking at Wycombe, Northampton, Reading, MK etc.

I wonder if this is just old news, from a year or two back. It seems a bit random.
 
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