Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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McGuane hasn’t just played one game for us though, has he? Gorrin can’t PLAY football. He is good at breaking up the play, but when it comes to advancing the play, picking a pass and playing with the ball at his feet, he’s seriously lacking. If Gorrin gets booked early on (which is often) he’s unable to play his game, and we might as well be down to 10 men.

McGuane has been quality out wide, quality in CM, and now he’s making that CDM role his own.

I hope Gorrin comes back stronger than ever, but for me, right now, McGuane is miles better.

McGuane has been poor for us for a year. He was my MOTM at Derby but that’s one game.

Gorrin has been out injured for a year. Before that injury he was one of the better holding midfielders in the league.

Both have major questions to answer and it would be a massive risk not to sign an experienced holding midfielder to add to our squad with those doubts.
 
McGuane has been poor for us for a year. He was my MOTM at Derby but that’s one game.

Gorrin has been out injured for a year. Before that injury he was one of the better holding midfielders in the league.

Both have major questions to answer and it would be a massive risk not to sign an experienced holding midfielder to add to our squad with those doubts.

It’s a game of opinions, but for me, I would much rather have someone like Marcus in my 11. Yes, an experienced CDM would be a good signing, but would I sign an experienced CDM to replace McGuane? No, not at all. He deserves his run in the side, and until Gorrin shows that he is match-fit and sharp enough to play again, that’s how it should remain.

McGaune starts
Experienced CDM as backup
Gorrin

As it stands, that should be the pecking order.
 
Not a good comparison. Not only one of (if not the) smallest budget in the division (not to take away from how well their club is run) but their manager has openly admitted that they are/have struggled to sign players because they (Exeter) are effectively a last resort for players at this level.

"We're probably bottom of the food chain, bottom of the pecking order in relation to bringing players to the football club at League One level," Exeter City boss Matt Taylor tells BBC Sport nine days before the start of the new season.

The same simply can't be said for us - especially now that we are chucking serious money at it. We don't have the excuse of being at the bottom of the pecking order and waiting for whatever is left come August. We have the clout (and respected position at this level) to aggressively go after what we want and early. Granted, we may now be seeing the benefit of this - but we could and should have done a lot more and a lot earlier.
That's fair, if we're in for the same pool of players as Exeter. But we're not.

We're in for the same pool of players as lower half Championship clubs, as that's the only way to get out of this division these days. So we are also towards the back of the queue in some cases.

If you say we can't be compared to Exeter's lack of business because we're ahead of them, then no League 2 or National League clubs would done any business yet this summer.
 
It’s a game of opinions, but for me, I would much rather have someone like Marcus in my 11. Yes, an experienced CDM would be a good signing, but would I sign an experienced CDM to replace McGuane? No, not at all. He deserves his run in the side, and until Gorrin shows that he is match-fit and sharp enough to play again, that’s how it should remain.

McGaune starts
Experienced CDM as backup
Gorrin

As it stands, that should be the pecking order.

Holding midfield, back 4 and GK are the positions where you can’t have question marks. The rest of the pitch I’m happy with risks to be taken.

I’d say CDM, both full backs & GK all have major question marks as it stands. If we are to underachieve this season, it will be because of those positions not being addressed.
 
Holding midfield, back 4 and GK are the positions where you can’t have question marks. The rest of the pitch I’m happy with risks to be taken.

I’d say CDM, both full backs & GK all have major question marks as it stands. If we are to underachieve this season, it will be because of those positions not being addressed.

We signed McGinty? For me, the reason there may be question marks over the GK position, is because he’s not playing! The longer Eastwood and Stevens are picked, the longer those questions will continue to be asked!

We need full-backs. That I will agree on.

CDM, for me, is not a priority.

Ah well, it doesn’t really matter what we say; although, it is fun to discuss! Roll on tomorrow. I’m expecting a BIG performance from the boys.

3-0: Taylor, Brannagan and Findlay.
 
I think it’s time to talk about the elephant in the room, lack of goals. Is it just a coincidence that we have failed to score in the past few weeks or are we seriously lacking in the quality up front. For all the transfer business in the wingers department we simply aren’t producing goals. Do we just wait for Baldock to return ? I think we need to do some transfer business and it’s urgently required.
 
That deeper role is a completely different position depending on your opposition. Against lower sides, or at home when you're dominating possession, Mcguane will thrive, constantly getting on the ball with time and space to dictate the play.

Against top sides I would prefer a specialist defensive midfielder. Has Mcguane got the hard work rate, tough tackling and disciplined positioning, marking and covering in his game yet? I'm not so sure.
Last week against Derby we probably didn't do enough to win the game but were the better side for about 50-55 minutes from about 15 minutes in.
McGuane and Cam had got hold of the MF and we looked the more likely (if any) to sneak something. We then brought Gorrin on which seemed like an ok decision at the time.
Unfortunately the poor lad had only played a few minutes of pre-season and was way off the pace, his passing was awful (it's never brilliant, that's not his game) and he gave the ball away several times leaving us exposed. This gave Derby confidence at a time when they were drifting out of the game, then Findlay who didn't look comfortable passing around the back line gave the ball away for the goal. Truth is we were better defensively before Gorrin came on. Gorrin and Findlay's passing will improve over the coming weeks, however Gorrin should concentrate on getting the ball and giving it to someone who can pass it !
But the point is McGuane is absolutely fine as a more defensive midfielder.
 
McGuane has been poor for us for a year. He was my MOTM at Derby but that’s one game.

Both have major questions to answer and it would be a massive risk not to sign an experienced holding midfielder to add to our squad with those doubts.

For me, it wasn't just that McGuane played well at Derby - it was what he did well. He was tracking runners, showing up in his own box to make clearances, harrying opponents and generally being a nuisance. He actually did sweet FA with the ball going forwards, but yet he was still the majority MotM selection, because he was absolutely excellent at stifling Derby through the middle of the park. So much so that until KR made his fateful changes, Derby only looked dangerous when they played balls down the right hand channel on top of Seddon.

It was enough for me to think he deserves a shot at making the position his own. I would give him the next five league games there (and maybe Swansea as well, unless they want to rest him). If he continues to play like he did on Saturday, then the gig should be his and you don't need to sign another CDM (Gorrin will be more than adequate cover once he gets his legs under him).

If his play falls off, and cracks start to appear in his defensive game, then CDM becomes the focus for the last few days between the Cheltenham game and the window shutting (which means we should of course, be doing our research and identifying potential targets)

But for now.....RB, ST, LB and maybe winger - in that rough order (you could maybe switch RB & ST, they're both crucial) - should be the priorities.
 
Do we have a 'desperate need to fill key positions'?

I want us to sign a right and left back, and starting ones at that, but those are the only two positions where you could argue that we need players and it seems like our manager might disagree with regards to a LB.

Some of our fans seem to think we are the only ones short ot players, only ones who players out of position etc, when most fans will be saying the same.
No we aren't in desperate need to fill lb, RB and striker, if we aspire to mid to lower mid table.
But if we want to be pushing for promotion an injection of much higher quality is needed on both sides with long and brown as back ups. I thought that was pretty clear. Equally if Taylor is out of form or god forbid gets injured then that's when we need the next striker, or we start the bare bones nightmare scenario of moving people to play out of their natural position.
The main barrier to this is the high and mighty Robinson, who seems to act like Julius Caesar when it comes to signings. It's his way or no way and at the moment he doesn't think we need a left back, which is scary. But we all know what happened to Julius Caesar. You can read script with injuries and Oxford.
The loaning of the Leeds lad could turn out to be a great move, but another week passes and the 4 positions that need filling remain unfilled on the eve of game 2.
CB, Striker, RB and LB are needed.
 
Exeter fans were in absolute meltdown a couple of weeks ago about their lack of business. Didn't make their first signing til 26th July.

I also agree that we need plenty more, but to say we are in 'desperate need to fill key positions' when we'd all be happy with the current incumbents in each apart from LB and possibly RB is pushing it.
Why concerned about Exeter. We are Oxford.
Desperate becomes a key word when these positions are not filled and we suddenly get a single injury, either striker or in the back line. Bare bones in those areas with one injury.
 
Hello
Exeter fans were in absolute meltdown a couple of weeks ago about their lack of business. Didn't make their first signing til 26th July.

I also agree that we need plenty more, but to say we are in 'desperate need to fill key positions' when we'd all be happy with the current incumbents in each apart from LB and possibly RB is pushing it.
Let’s wait and see until after tomorrow
 
I think we are all pretty happy with Taylor aren’t we? So yes, we need a striker to compete with him, but we are not in ‘desperate need’ of a striker. It’s not like we’re gonna have to play Ciaron Brown there tomorrow.

I’d like a CDM, but again we have one actual defensive midfielder, and another who seems to be playing there at the moment (even though I’m not happy about it)

We need players, it’s obvious, but the constant catastrophising of the situation is tiresome.
So Taylor gets injured tomorrow, who is the natural striker to play up front on Tuesday or Saturday? We start playing people out of position immediately, game 3.

Is that really the way a promotion pushing side goes about setting themselves up for successful season?
 
I’m pretty sure McGuane was MOTM against Derby? The same Derby that have been tipped, by many on this forum, to P**s this league?

Who’s to say he isn’t going to become a specialist CDM? He’s certainly convincing me that he’s more than capable of excelling in that role! Until he has an absolute stinker, I’m against the idea of us spending money/using a loan on someone that MIGHT be better than him. We also have Lewis Bate, who is known for his doggedness and his willingness to get stuck in.

For me, McGuane has already shown me that he’s a FAR better player than Gorrin. The only reason I would get a CDM in would be for backup. Gorrin is miles off of it, and I know that he’s coming back from a serious injury, but he looked awful against Derby.
He's played one game in which we lost. He played really well when we were on the ball. He was brilliant on the ball against Derby and all of our offensive play came through him, he was also playing in a 2 alongside Brannagan with 3 in front.

In an ideal world, against tougher sides we would usually play 3 central midfielders, with a more specialist defensive midfielder playing deeper, and Mcguane and brannagan slightly higher up.

Your confidence in mcguane to suddenly become a defensive midfielder is admirable as much as its optimistic. I would prefer a specialist defensive midfielder we can use, and not Gorrin who's physical fitness and match sharpness will be questionable for some time.
 
It’s a game of opinions, but for me, I would much rather have someone like Marcus in my 11. Yes, an experienced CDM would be a good signing, but would I sign an experienced CDM to replace McGuane? No, not at all. He deserves his run in the side, and until Gorrin shows that he is match-fit and sharp enough to play again, that’s how it should remain.

McGaune starts
Experienced CDM as backup
Gorrin

As it stands, that should be the pecking order.
Noone is saying you can't have MM in your 11. We all agree he's extremely talented with the ball at his feet, passing and dribbling etc.

Can you show me a game for us where he sat in front of our back 4 as a defensive midfielder, covering, marking, tackling? Probably not because even he'll admit he's never been that midfielder, and I still feel like we need one, at least till January because Gorrin is nowhere match sharp or match fit yet.

If you don't feel like we need one of those then you must know better than Pep and Klopp... The only time Pep tried it without a specialist DM he lost the CL final to Chelsea...
 
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