We have to be creative?

m said:
I can't remember any OUFC chairman doing that. Ever.

I'm not convinced that placing your budgets in the public domain before a season starts is necessarily the best idea either.
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I can't think why either.
 
MarkG said:
I remember Ian Lenagan did once in a powerpoint presentation in one of his fans' forums.
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I was there for that. But it was later in the season than where we are now. Still not a bright idea
 
Scotchegg said:
Please feel free to comment on the very many posts on my club.

Some things you may consider discussing;

You stated yourself that the appointment of Shaun Derry was very good and that he could easily manage a league club. Would you see this as a positive for our immediate plans? Would someone as experienced as Shaun come here without assurances on finances etc?

Given the need to bring in several players, would you consider us likely to be looking at deals around the £400-500k for individual players, or would we be better sticking to the model that worked well (Roofe, Lundstrum, Ledson etc).

If we were to make a few marquee signings, who do you think we should be after?

Would you have concerns for a club at our level to give full authority to the manager to bring in anyone and everyone he wants? Or would it be prudent to run signings through the chairman? Could we not be looking to learn from Pep's mistakes last summer?

What are your predictions for the coming season? Should we look to stabilise or have we got it in ourselves to push for promotion?
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stabilise. Top 10. Cup run. 19/20 serious promotion push. All subject to Tigers funding.
 
Fixtures
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15 players?? That's debatable, under the trades descriptions act regarding most of them.

Some said when KR took charge, all the talk of speaking to so many agents, wanting to get business done early, maybe wishful thinking.
Now with a few days to go before the fixtures come out, I hope it doesn't come back to haunt him.
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fixtures out 21/6...players on holiday at the moment...contracts expire 30/6...yes early desks done wud be grt and I know that KR is frustrated but leys NOT panic just yet!
 
Craig said:
I originally read a similar article in the Sunderland Echo, but this works too.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sp...nces__parachute_payments_and_transfer_budget/

ON THIS SUMMER’S SPENDING COMMITMENTS

Methven: “This summer, people who follow the Sunderland situation closely will understand that there is a considerable cash requirement. The discussion with Ellis was that we would be able to pay him over a period of time because he knew that we were going to have quite a bit of investment that needed to be made this summer.
Donald: “In terms of the transfer money that’s owed (this summer), it’s a little bit more than the £18m that has been speculated. I think it’s nearer £25m.”
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God I wish we could leave the Sunderland crap off of this forum.
Look, two so called Oxford Fans one of whom had the money to buy the club or even just claw the stadium away from Kassam have chosen to not only take over another club but one in direct conflict with OUFC. One that might now be stealing players right from under our nose.
Personally I could never do that. But what is done is done. Let’s move on.
 
Shaun Rice said:
God I wish we could leave the Sunderland crap off of this forum.
Look, two so called Oxford Fans one of whom had the money to buy the club or even just claw the stadium away from Kassam have chosen to not only take over another club but one in direct conflict with OUFC. One that might now be stealing players right from under our nose.
Personally I could never do that. But what is done is done. Let’s move on.
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In fairness, they tried last summer, alongside Juan Sartori who is now going to be a backer at Sunderland. What is going on up there is what they tried to do here. A certain Mr Eales didn't want to sell to them and that was that, so I think it's unfair for people to refer to Stewart in particular as a 'so called fan'. He put in plenty of money in the past when we needed it most, helping to fund players to get us back into the Football League and then funding others so that we could remain stable and mildly competitive in League Two, and that is in addition to his sponsorship of the club for a time. It's all good and well for people to have a cry because somebody took their money elsewhere, but I think it's awfully easy to talk about how non-committed somebody else is when they aren't the ones who have pumped in the amount of money he did. His party was rejected last summer, and that's not the first time he's tried to get more involved only to run into a wall over the years. If you have a problem with the fact that Stewart has ended up in the north east, take it up with our former Chairman. Anyhow, the bid was rejected in the best interests of the club, so we should be glad it didn't happen anyway, right? We don't want their money, because DE said it would have been bad and naughty. Yeah?

I'm keen to keep this Sunderland rubbish off the forum as well, but I'm also quite keen to keep other rubbish off too, such as people accusing others of not being proper fans when if it hadn't been for their help in the past we may not have a club at all.
 
Very good post RyanioBirdio. I reckon DE made a huge mistake not selling to the Donald/Sartori group. Anyway, as you say forget them now - onwards & upwards - COYY!
 
RyanioBirdio said:
In fairness, they tried last summer, alongside Juan Sartori who is now going to be a backer at Sunderland. What is going on up there is what they tried to do here. A certain Mr Eales didn't want to sell to them and that was that, so I think it's unfair for people to refer to Stewart in particular as a 'so called fan'. He put in plenty of money in the past when we needed it most, helping to fund players to get us back into the Football League and then funding others so that we could remain stable and mildly competitive in League Two, and that is in addition to his sponsorship of the club for a time. It's all good and well for people to have a cry because somebody took their money elsewhere, but I think it's awfully easy to talk about how non-committed somebody else is when they aren't the ones who have pumped in the amount of money he did. His party was rejected last summer, and that's not the first time he's tried to get more involved only to run into a wall over the years. If you have a problem with the fact that Stewart has ended up in the north east, take it up with our former Chairman. Anyhow, the bid was rejected in the best interests of the club, so we should be glad it didn't happen anyway, right? We don't want their money, because DE said it would have been bad and naughty. Yeah?

I'm keen to keep this Sunderland rubbish off the forum as well, but I'm also quite keen to keep other rubbish off too, such as people accusing others of not being proper fans when if it hadn't been for their help in the past we may not have a club at all.
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From the Oxvox minutes: Eales "The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the club."

So depending on whose side you want to take, either Eales got greedy and wanted more money for the valuable assets such as player transfer fees and valuations and also past investment, or Donald / Sartori got greedy and wouldn't pay as much as Tiger was offering.
 
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I'm assuming at this rate even the Word Association thread will devolve into a heated discussion on Eales/Sartori/Donald/Methven.

COYY, sign someone so we have something useful to talk about! Were going around in circles at the moment.
 
MarkG said:
RyanioBirdio said:
In fairness, they tried last summer, alongside Juan Sartori who is now going to be a backer at Sunderland. What is going on up there is what they tried to do here. A certain Mr Eales didn't want to sell to them and that was that, so I think it's unfair for people to refer to Stewart in particular as a 'so called fan'. He put in plenty of money in the past when we needed it most, helping to fund players to get us back into the Football League and then funding others so that we could remain stable and mildly competitive in League Two, and that is in addition to his sponsorship of the club for a time. It's all good and well for people to have a cry because somebody took their money elsewhere, but I think it's awfully easy to talk about how non-committed somebody else is when they aren't the ones who have pumped in the amount of money he did. His party was rejected last summer, and that's not the first time he's tried to get more involved only to run into a wall over the years. If you have a problem with the fact that Stewart has ended up in the north east, take it up with our former Chairman. Anyhow, the bid was rejected in the best interests of the club, so we should be glad it didn't happen anyway, right? We don't want their money, because DE said it would have been bad and naughty. Yeah?

I'm keen to keep this Sunderland rubbish off the forum as well, but I'm also quite keen to keep other rubbish off too, such as people accusing others of not being proper fans when if it hadn't been for their help in the past we may not have a club at all.
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From the Oxvox minutes: Eales "The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the club."

So depending on whose side you want to take, either Eales got greedy and wanted more money for the valuable assets such as player transfer fees and valuations and also past investment, or Donald / Sartori got greedy and wouldn't pay as much as Tiger was offering.
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I should imagine both statements are correct.

Business people aren’t typically know as being charitable in take-over deals!
 
I was under the impression at the time that CM introduced Sartori to SD and then SD introduced Sartori to DE.

SD was not involved in the deal, it was very much a ‘solo’ bid by Sartori with CM lurking in the background.

However that doesn’t appear to be the case, it now seems SD was much more involved. Is that right or am I totally confused?
 
MJB said:
I should imagine both statements are correct.

Business people aren’t typically know as being charitable in take-over deals!
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Charlie scuppered the deal by have anything to do with it. Hence why Charlie became so bitter.
 
DenisSmithsWig said:
Charlie scuppered the deal by have anything to do with it. Hence why Charlie became so bitter.
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And you know that for a fact? Regardless of personality I would say that if i owned a football club and was looking to sell ‘in the best interests of the club’ then I would be looking to sell to someone who was actually a fan or someone in some way related to the club rather than a complete unknown. You can say what you like about Charlie but you can date his support of OUFC back to the 80’s.

I can think of precisely 1 million reasons why DE sold to Tiger, none of which are in the best interests of OUFC but certainly in the interests of DE.

If DE had sold the club to Tiger on a ‘vision’ of the club then I’m still waiting to see it..
 
oufcbenjyp said:
DenisSmithsWig said:
Charlie scuppered the deal by have anything to do with it. Hence why Charlie became so bitter.
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And you know that for a fact? Regardless of personality I would say that if i owned a football club and was looking to sell ‘in the best interests of the club’ then I would be looking to sell to someone who was actually a fan or someone in some way related to the club rather than a complete unknown. You can say what you like about Charlie but you can date his support of OUFC back to the 80’s.

I can think of precisely 1 million reasons why DE sold to Tiger, none of which are in the best interests of OUFC but certainly in the interests of DE.

If DE had sold the club to Tiger on a ‘vision’ of the club then I’m still waiting to see it..
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Read my post above. The whole point was that pursuing a deal when neither side was close was not in the best interests of the Club. Not that selling to Sartori was not in the best interests etc.

Appleton ended up leaving , presumably uncertainty over Club ownership and finances a factor.
 
oufcbenjyp said:
And you know that for a fact? Regardless of personality I would say that if i owned a football club and was looking to sell ‘in the best interests of the club’ then I would be looking to sell to someone who was actually a fan or someone in some way related to the club rather than a complete unknown. You can say what you like about Charlie but you can date his support of OUFC back to the 80’s.

I can think of precisely 1 million reasons why DE sold to Tiger, none of which are in the best interests of OUFC but certainly in the interests of DE.

If DE had sold the club to Tiger on a ‘vision’ of the club then I’m still waiting to see it..
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yes I do.
 
I thought the Santori bid evaporated the same time as the farmers field.
Business people like to earn money and that incentive was a figment of someone’s imagination.
More money to be made up north.
 
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