Home Match Day Thread 16/10/2021 L1: OUFC v Plymouth Argyle

[Scotchegg]

Agree about Willians, every time I’ve seen him play he has taken on players beaten them and put in a good cross.
Don’t think I’ve seen Whyte do that very much
Yesterday showed the difference of being calm in the oppositions box and our own box
We gave away the first two goals through poor defensive mistakes and by shepherding the player away from goal and standing stronger this should not have happened
Their third goal was very good ,countless passes and players looking for the forward pass.
Their finishing and shots on target very composed, whereas we seemed to snatch at the ball every time we were in a shooting position
We are capable of more, look at the Accrington game similar positions but the final pass so much better

Completely agree about composure. We've seen that with some rash challenges to give away penalties and countless missed chances. Get that right and we'll see far more Accrington type results.

 

[Mighty Tage]

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You seem to have completely forgotten Henry's two missed chances (easily as good as any of the Argyle goals) or the number of excellent balls Holland put across the six years box that no one got on the end of.

Yes, great examples of exactly what I mean. Henry’s first chance he should’ve converted and his last shot should have been a pass. It was a droppable offence that he blazed that final chance high and wide given the angle and the fact there were players square. Six crosses without connection? That’s shocking and needs work, exactly what I was referring to with the observation about end product.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Went yesterday, really enjoyed the match and my son had a great time. The football KR plays is very good, just a bit toothless at times. I think the problem lies with decision making and end product. The penetrating through balls/dink over the top are very few and far between and the players struggle to identify when it’s best to shoot/cross. Crosses are generally very poor.

I don’t know whether this is a personnel problem or a coaching issue. Matty Taylor can certainly put the ball in the net with decent service though. They all seem to work very hard (apart from Henry, who I apologise in advance for saying this as I know he’s a club legend, but I don’t see the hype and think he should be dropped) and are doing the right things so perhaps it’ll all click.

At the moment, it’s easy for opposition to sit back and let Oxford knock it about sideways amongst themselves before a poor cross gives them the ball and they can counter. For all Oxford’s pretty football yesterday, Plymouth were clinical and deserved the win. What they did was simple and effective. Sit back, counter, score.

So you want to drop our top scorer and chance creator? Admittedly his finishing was dreadful yesterday but he set up a lovely goal and otherwise had a decent game. He has a languid style so people who prefer an all-action tough guy tend not to like him. Holland put in some inviting low crosses but no one got on the end of them.

 

[Mighty Tage]

So you want to drop our top scorer and chance creator? Admittedly his finishing was dreadful yesterday but he set up a lovely goal and otherwise had a decent game. He has a languid style so people who prefer an all-action tough guy tend not to like him. Holland put in some inviting low crosses but no one got on the end of them.

I appreciate it’s controversial, but yes, I believe Henry should be dropped. He didn’t have a good game at all yesterday in my opinion, he was lacklustre and was greedy when he should’ve passed on at least two occasions. Tracking back is also an alien concept as is running at full speed.

He might be top scorer, but how many are penalties? I watched him get a hat trick (against Lincoln?) and it was unbelievable. Every other touch he had that day was terrible, but he went home with the match ball. One a penalty, one a good free kick and another was an excellent finish tbf. Obviously there’s a place for a player with that sort of potential for a performance on occasion, but against teams where he can’t be carried for the other 87 minutes of open play, I really think Oxford would find better value in playing someone with legs.

 

[uptheus]

We didn’t address our weaknesses in the summer which were glaringly highlighted in the play off loss at home to Blackpool which was physicality and athletism. Also, failed on the striker front and possibly defensive cover (LB & RB, and centrally)

Karl also needs to play players in their right positions e.g. Whyte on the right.

My fear in re-signing Holland was his weakness, and again this showed up. Got great ability running at players, but tends to lack final ball (same could be said re; Sykes)

Oh, and please stop playing it into feet to Henry, Holland and Whyte as they invariably lose it too easily which I guess relates to the weakness comment I made at the start.

Think we’ve got a number of big decisions to make in January.

ps Seddon looks half the player his was when he joined us

 

[werthersoriginal]

I appreciate it’s controversial, but yes, I believe Henry should be dropped. He didn’t have a good game at all yesterday in my opinion, he was lacklustre and was greedy when he should’ve passed on at least two occasions. Tracking back is also an alien concept as is running at full speed.

He might be top scorer, but how many are penalties? I watched him get a hat trick (against Lincoln?) and it was unbelievable. Every other touch he had that day was terrible, but he went home with the match ball. One a penalty, one a good free kick and another was an excellent finish tbf. Obviously there’s a place for a player with that sort of potential for a performance on occasion, but against teams where he can’t be carried for the other 87 minutes of open play, I really think Oxford would find better value in playing someone with legs.

Crazy. You need to find a better place to sit.

 

[ECYellow]

We seem to have gone from an incredible team to absolutely useless in 90 mins according to some!

And to think that we laugh at the insanity on the forums of other teams!!

Supporters are emotional, it’s all part of bring a fan. I’m not sure that your sarcastic soundbites are offering much to the thread.

 

[Mighty Tage]

Crazy. You need to find a better place to sit.

What I see will be the same unless you lend me your rose tinted spectacles

 

[uptheus]

Regarding stats from yesterday, we had 14 shots to their 12 with 2 of ours being on target and with them having 5 on target.

We missed Gorrin yesterday, and I think with Brannagan and Kane we miss a bit if what each player can offer e.g. Brannagan seems quieter in the game so not so influential and the same could be said about Kane.

I also wonder if yesterday we should have gone with Bodin rather than Holland on the left.

 

[Scotchegg]

Supporters are emotional, it’s all part of bring a fan. I’m not sure that your sarcastic soundbites are offering much to the thread.

What is your requirement for offering value to a thread?

My view is that we're a good side, playing well but making mistakes in key areas. Has been fairly constant all season. Too many defensive errors, unbelievable number of missed chances.

However, we're not terrible as many were saying yesterday. Elliott Moore shouldn't be kicked out of the club as one said. James Henry shouldn't be dropped. And Karl Robinson isn't responsible for absolutely everything.

Please let me know if that meets your standards of posting?

 

[Followtheox1]

Oh, and please stop playing it into feet to Henry, Holland and Whyte as they invariably lose it too easily which I guess relates to the weakness comment I made at the start.

Where do you want it played to them, their heads?

 

[oufc1991]

Would this team have done better maybe we could start the Shrewsbury match like this

 

[Mighty Tage]

What is your requirement for offering value to a thread?

My view is that we're a good side, playing well but making mistakes in key areas. Has been fairly constant all season. Too many defensive errors, unbelievable number of missed chances.

However, we're not terrible as many were saying yesterday. Elliott Moore shouldn't be kicked out of the club as one said. James Henry shouldn't be dropped. And Karl Robinson isn't responsible for absolutely everything.

Please let me know if that meets your standards of posting?

Not up to your usual standards. More condescension needed.

 

[uptheus]

Regarding our crosses in the box, when will we learn to actually look up and try and find one of our players rather than just hitting hopeful balls in and across the box hoping that someone will just get on the end of it.

Back in our hey days we seem to have wingers/full backs who looked to pick out one of our players in the box rather than hopeful crosses etc. May be we should do that in training.

 

[yellowbow]

We didn’t address our weaknesses in the summer which were glaringly highlighted in the play off loss at home to Blackpool which was physicality and athletism. Also, failed on the striker front and possibly defensive cover (LB & RB, and centrally)

Karl also needs to play players in their right positions e.g. Whyte on the right.

My fear in re-signing Holland was his weakness, and again this showed up. Got great ability running at players, but tends to lack final ball (same could be said re; Sykes)

Oh, and please stop playing it into feet to Henry, Holland and Whyte as they invariably lose it too easily which I guess relates to the weakness comment I made at the start.

Think we’ve got a number of big decisions to make in January.

ps Seddon looks half the player his was when he joined us

For what its worth I think the recruitment got a little bit muddled in the summer. Robinson seemed to get a bit excited and hoovered up too many players that play in the same positions. I cant remember at what point each player was signed but I do wonder if he signed the likes of Williams and Bodin not expecting Whyte and Holland to become available, then, when they did, he just couldnt then say no. He’s now struggling to accommodate them all in the team. Also, having shelled out on them all, maybe he didnt have enough left in the pot to address the striker and fullback issues. Hopefully Im way off the mark as that would be P**s poor strategy.

He did sign Kane late on to add weight to the argument that I am talking B*****s

 

[uptheus]

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Would this team have done better maybe we could start the Shrewsbury match like this

Yes.

 

[uptheus]

For what its worth I think the recruitment got a little bit muddled in the summer. Robinson seemed to get a bit excited and hoovered up too many players that play in the same positions. I cant remember at what point each player was signed but I do wonder if he signed the likes of Williams and Bodin not expecting Whyte and Holland to become available, then, when they did, he just couldnt then say no. He’s now struggling to accommodate them all in the team. Also, having shelled out on them all, maybe he didnt have enough left in the pot to address the striker and fullback issues. Hopefully Im way off the mark as that would be P**s poor strategy.

He did sign Kane late on to add weight to the argument that I am talking B*****s

I think you could be right.

 

[uptheus]

Where do you want it played to them, their heads?

No, pass it to players in better positions rather than to weaker players who you know are not going to win 50/50 duals e.g. not to players who are not very strong with their backs to play.

 

[ECYellow]

What is your requirement for offering value to a thread?

My view is that we're a good side, playing well but making mistakes in key areas. Has been fairly constant all season. Too many defensive errors, unbelievable number of missed chances.

However, we're not terrible as many were saying yesterday. Elliott Moore shouldn't be kicked out of the club as one said. James Henry shouldn't be dropped. And Karl Robinson isn't responsible for absolutely everything.

Please let me know if that meets your standards of posting?

Much better. Amazing what a balanced opinion can offer instead of condescending B*****s .

Tell us, Is Robinson responsible for us not winning when taking the lead in 7 of our 16 fixtures (all comps) this season?

 

[The mighty Aldo]

Regarding our crosses in the box, when will we learn to actually look up and try and find one of our players rather than just hitting hopeful balls in and across the box hoping that someone will just get in the end of it.

Back in our hey days we seem to have wingers/full backs who looked to pick out one of our players in the box rather than hopeful crosses etc. May be we should do that in training.

Plymouth did this,they actually looked up and passed when in our box whereas we put a pass into an area where we think a player should be without looking.
Sometimes we rush things when there is time, plus a defender is very wary about making a rash challenge.Holland x 2 and Whyte were guilty of this. Both got into great positions but rushed the final ball