International News Covid Passport....

FYI we had a COVID related issue at work here in Dubai recently which resulted in our whole office needed testing and to work from home until results came through. The only person to receive a positive test result was a guy who had received both his vaccinations. Go figure...
 
FYI we had a COVID related issue at work here in Dubai recently which resulted in our whole office needed testing and to work from home until results came through. The only person to receive a positive test result was a guy who had received both his vaccinations. Go figure...
Well, considering PCR tests return a high % of false-positives, im not really that surprised. That is rather odd though..
 
I think i'm more concerned about the long term effects of the vaccine itself and any unknown side effects later in life (33 yo fit/healthy male) than carrying a paper/card/app that confirms i've had the vaccine. As far as i'm aware there is discussion on the use of blockchain technology as one way to secure data more than say having it all backed up by Matt Hancock and his cronies.

I am also very aware that a lot of my data and information is already held electronically or on file. When working on larger construction sites my information is logged as part of a biometric access/egress system which is also linked with my right to work check, fit to work assessment, CSCS card and occasional D&A test results. Without that information I wouldn't be permitted to work on site. I'm sure there's many on this forum who provide similar information in order to work.

A lot will depend on who is awarded with the contract for developing the app, where the information is stored and who has access to it.

I am working on site this week where I have to have the site companies app on my phone and I get through the turnstiles via face recognition, if you don’t agree to it you don’t work. It’s going to get harder and harder to avoid this stuff anyway if you want to earn money, other than the pensioners in here the rest of us will just have to get used to being tracked and traced throughout our lives, it will be that or starve.
 
Don't see what the problem is at all with these, as long as there is a relatively foolproof way of saying you're exempt.
If you simply don't want the vaccine, you can't expect to be allowed to put others potentially at risk.
I also agree with the argument about licenses and whatnot to do other things, like drive, travel, etc. No ones complaining about their rights for those things!
All these people banging on about liberties on the news, can, with the best will in the world, jog on!
 
If you simply don't want the vaccine, you can't expect to be allowed to put others potentially at risk.
But if your vaccine works, what’s the problem? If you’re vaccinated and this is supposed to protect you, surely you wouldn’t need to worry about those that aren’t vaccinated?

This whole driving license reference is ridiculous. You have to LEARN how to drive. You have to be TAUGHT how to drive. I don’t have to LEARN or be TAUGHT how to be healthy. Believe it or not, we have immune systems that can do all of that for us..

Secondly, if you truly don’t be believe that this has anything to do with limiting the freedom/movement of the population then you really are smoking some potent s**t mate.

I suggest you have a look at this. Dr Michael Yeadon has been spot on throughout this whole ‘crisis’ and considering he is the former VP of Pfizer, I would say he is well placed to comment: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/e...to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
 
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But if your vaccine works, what’s the problem? If you’re vaccinated and this is supposed to protect you, surely you wouldn’t need to worry about those that aren’t vaccinated?

This whole driving license reference is ridiculous. You have to LEARN to drive. You have to be TAUGHT to drive. I don’t have to LEARN or be TAUGHT how to be healthy. Believe it or not, we have immune systems that can do that for us..

Secondly, if you truly don’t be believe that this has anything to do with limiting the freedom/movement of the population then you really are smoking some potent s**t mate.

I suggest you have a look at this. Dr Michael Yeadon has been spot on throughout this whole ‘crisis’ and considering he is the former VP of Pfizer, I would say he is well placed to comment: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/e...to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
I'm talking about people who can't have the vaccine. If you're medically exempt and its not your fault, how is it possibly fair that you go to the theatre and someone who simply can't be arsed with it is sitting next to you potentially putting your life at risk? Think about it, lad.
 
But if your vaccine works, what’s the problem? If you’re vaccinated and this is supposed to protect you, surely you wouldn’t need to worry about those that aren’t vaccinated?
You really don't understand the concept of using widespread vaccination to protect those who can't be vaccinated, do you? Not everyone's got a fully functional immune system.
 
I'm talking about people who can't have the vaccine. If you're medically exempt and its not your fault, how is it possibly fair that you go to the theatre and someone who simply can't be arsed with it is sitting next to you potentially putting your life at risk? Think about it, lad.
I get that. Unfortunately, as it stands, those people will be subject to the same alienation and segregation as those people that choose to, for whatever reason, not get the vaccine. You would hope that there would be some form of exemption for those that can’t get the vaccine for medical reasons.

Truth be told, those people may well be better off in the long run.
 
You really don't understand the concept of using widespread vaccination to protect those who can't be vaccinated, do you? Not everyone's got a fully functional immune system.
That’s not what I was referring to. My point was, if you’re vaccinated and I’m not, what is the problem? I have no health issues. If you are protected and this vaccine is supposed to be preventative, you shouldn’t be able to catch it, nor spread it; or is that not the case? If it’s not, what does this vaccine actually do?

It’s a fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that even when you don’t have symptoms, you are a source of a virus. It’s simply not true. That has been proven.
 
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That’s not what I was referring to. My point was, if you’re vaccinated and I’m not, what is the problem? I have no health issues. If you are protected and this vaccine is supposed to be preventative, you shouldn’t be able to catch it, nor spread it; or is that not the case? If it’s not, what does this vaccine actually do?

It’s a fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that even when you don’t have symptoms, you are a source of a virus. It’s simply not true. That has been proven.
From the WHO:

"While a COVID-19 vaccine will protect you from serious illness and death, we still don’t know the extent to which it keeps you from being infected and passing the virus on to others."
 
From the WHO:

"While a COVID-19 vaccine will protect you from serious illness and death, we still don’t know the extent to which it keeps you from being infected and passing the virus on to others."
So that’s another example of this vaccine not going through the correct and extensive testing frameworks. Basically, we don’t know what this vaccine actually does but take it anyway. What a load of shite.
 
It’s a fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that even when you don’t have symptoms, you are a source of a virus. It’s simply not true. That has been proven.
Considering that asymptomatic transmission has been observed in multiple deseases over the years, I'd suggest your statement is "simply untrue" unless you have some validated research showing otherwise?
 
Considering that asymptomatic transmission has been observed in multiple deseases over the years, I'd suggest your statement is "simply untrue" unless you have some validated research showing otherwise?
Multiple diseases? Are these respiratory conditions and diseases? If so, I’d like to see exactly which ones you are referring to.

And as for data, here is one example:

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I will drink the P**s of every poster on here if I can go back to the pub and football so I am probably not the fussiest person but given how unlikely it is that the government are going to want to kill every one through vaccination (even Essex yellow would struggle to vote Tory after that sort of f**k up) I can’t see the big fuss about how having it, put much, much worse in my body when I was younger.
 
TBF I'm always very impressed by unattributed screen grabs that include coloured highlighting.
Oh yeah, here’s some context for you. Just some random bloke on Twitter. This is coming from a professor at the Queen Mary University in London. One of the leading public research universities in the world. He’s also the director of a biomedical company. I would say he is better placed to comment on this than anyone on the government payroll:
 
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See my edited post. I have asked you to prove to me that the spread of respiratory viruses has been caused by asymptomatic cases.
I haven't stated it has. I've asked you to show your workings, nothing more.
 
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