werthersoriginal
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It’s very much ‘Look! A squirrel!’He’s trying to make up for the one he couldn’t get done in London. A UK built bridge that’s outside the UK!
It’s very much ‘Look! A squirrel!’He’s trying to make up for the one he couldn’t get done in London. A UK built bridge that’s outside the UK!
So did you see on the TV news the Sinn Fein supporters at the election counts singing IRA songs - I think I would describe that as troubling rather than awesome.1) It is awesome that Ireland's voters have realised that a two party system is idiotic, and that it's appropriate to vote for a wider range of parties that allows your vote a little more specificity. Oh for British and American voters to do the same.......
2) Sinn Fein ran on a platform of affordable housing, worker rights, reduction in the pension age, cheaper childcare, more police and (of course) Irish unification. They are "critical but supportive" of the EU. So I'm not quite sure why Essexyellows is putting that one in the win column for his side?!?
So did you see on the TV news the Sinn Fein supporters at the election counts singing IRA songs - I think I would describe that as troubling rather than awesome.
And let's be clear - Sinn Fein have been hugely anti Europe for years, long before UKIP even existed. Their scepticism only became 'critical but supportive' after Brexit. Of course they will be supportive of the EU whilst negotiations with the UK over Brexit are ongoing, their anti-Britishness trumps everything. So let's not pretend this is a good result for the EU anymore than it is for the UK. Ireland now probably faces months of stalemate whilst they try to cobble together a weak coalition of 3 or 4 parties and if SF are involved as is likely, will be very Euro-sceptic.
Nigel Farage and Sinn Féin are bedfellows when it comes to Europe
No surprise Brexit Party using clips of Mary Lou McDonald speeches at rallieswww.irishtimes.com
Sorry but what has 'Irexit' got to do with it?In September 2018, the Irish Freedom Party (also known as "Irexit Freedom to Prosper"), was formed to campaign for an Irish exit from the EU and to field candidates in the 2019 European Parliament election. Its two candidates were party leader Hermann Kelly, who received 2,441 first preference votes (0.67%) in the Dublin constituency, and chairperson Professor Delores Cahill, who polled with 1.47% of first preference votes in the South constituency.
Irexit isn't very popular at the ballot box...
1) It is awesome that Ireland's voters have realised that a two party system is idiotic, and that it's appropriate to vote for a wider range of parties that allows your vote a little more specificity. Oh for British and American voters to do the same.......
2) Sinn Fein ran on a platform of affordable housing, worker rights, reduction in the pension age, cheaper childcare, more police and (of course) Irish unification. They are "critical but supportive" of the EU. So I'm not quite sure why Essexyellows is putting that one in the win column for his side?!?
Democracy, EU style. Glad to be getting out of it.I would also say it was proven, in Ireland, that you can not be a "critical friend of the EU".
The electorate rejected the Treaty of Nice.................... wrong answer, vote again.....
@tonyw first up I like the fact that a party has created a "shock" and broken the mould, it is a bonus that Mr Smug Varadker has copped a bloody nose.
When it comes to politic`s we should all know & understand that a single party will never exactly match an individual`s personal choice and we will vote for those that mostly match our views.
British voter`s had a wider range of parties to vote for when there was a large issue to deal with. That party took votes from the two dominant parties until one of the two stepped up to the plate and offered a solution, now we are (at last!) further down that road the necessity of the other party has greatly diminished/gone.