Manager/Coach I back KR

So....2-Cadden RB
3 Ruffles LB
4/5 Dickie /Moore CB
6 Gorrin def mid
7 hall - winger
8 Cam Bran centre mid
9- held back for taylor CF
10- now woodburn
11- fosu - winger
Yep...players just don't link shirt numbers to positions do they ???
The point was that number 10 is an attacking position, not unnecessarily playing off the striker. That's why Marcus Browne was 10 last year, and Whyte was given that number before he left.
 
Gavin Whyte went for just shy of £3m and with add ons will exceed £3m. That is comparable with other players with similar experience in league one. He was not sold on the cheap.

Gavin Whyte was happy at Oxford. He had no plans to leave. He felt the club was in a great place to progress and would have been happy playing regular football to cement a place in N.Ireland euro squad. HOWEVER, the chance came to move up to the Championship on much bigger wages, with reassurances that he would be very much in line for 1st team appearances. He grabbed that opportunity with both hands. He did not leave against his will. He wasn't forced out. His sale was not necessary to fund our summer spending. The club wanted him to stay.

The deal was like a million other deals with some money upfront and the rest in installments. We did not reduce the price to get cash upfront.

Most of our summer business was in place before the Cardiff bid came in. Gorrin, Cadden and Fosu were already in the building. Woodburn had been agreed in June, but waited for Liverpool to finish their tour. Moore had been lined up. Offers had been made for Jerome Sinclair. Ched Evans was spoken too. Money was always there and deals would have happened with or without Gavin leaving.

The constant need to look for some conspiracy is boring and takes away from genuine issues. I'm the positive one who was even backing Robinson last autumn when things were looking pretty poor, but even I can see that there can be some real concerns with KR.

For example, he can be tactically naive at times. He can be stubborn and sticks to a system or players when changes are needed. His substitutions are often too late and ineffective. He struggles to control his passion and goes with his heart instead of his head sometimes. All of these are worth discussing. The shite about Gavin Whyte and dodgy deals is simply wrong and a waste of time.
That’s surprising you having a go at the manager, slight change of tack ?
 
The point was that number 10 is an attacking position, not unnecessarily playing off the striker. That's why Marcus Browne was 10 last year, and Whyte was given that number before he left.
I rate you highly Mr egg and enjoy your positive posts ... lets beat Tranmere and Bolton and not worry about shirt numbers . ?
 
That’s surprising you having a go at the manager, slight change of tack ?
I'm far from having a go and rate Robinson highly. But he doesn't get everything right and can be slow to make changes when needed. But like last season when he asked to be judged on a fully fit side, I'll wait to see how the next month or 2 pan out before condemning him. I think that 3 wins and a draw are not impossible from our next 4 games which will give us 15 points after 11 games, 3 times more than we had at the same stage last season. Then, with the standard of play we've seen at times, I think we could make a decent push towards the top 10 or so. So still positive by default, so no need to send the medics round just yet!!
 
when he asked to be judged on a fully fit side
Injuries to key players affect every single team in every single league. It's the lack of depth in our squad that gives cause for concern, principally up front.
I'm certainly giving it another 5 games before feeling despondent, but I think it was the game at Fleetwood that has confirmed some worrying aspects.
They looked like a side who are in business for a possible play-off place, sound all across the park, not great but very competent.
We showed touches that suggest we can avoid relegation, and I disagree with one or two posters who say we lacked effort. But we seemed to have little shape and no decisive edge in midfield or up front.
One odd aspect of KR's management at the moment is his choice of Mackie as captain. Mackie was as bad on Saturday as he was in his first run of games last season: no threat on goal, heavy-legged and slow, not even any niggle, and silently passive as a captain.
 
So....2-Cadden RB
3 Ruffles LB
4/5 Dickie /Moore CB
6 Gorrin def mid
7 hall - winger
8 Cam Bran centre mid
9- held back for taylor CF
10- now woodburn
11- fosu - winger
Yep...players just don't link shirt numbers to positions do they ???
I think you'll find you've mixed up CB and Def Midfield there. Andy Thomas, defensive midfield, number 4. Malcolm Shotton, CB, number 6. And number 8 Centre midfield? Erm, John Aldridge. 10 is your central midfield, Trevor Hebberd...

All squad numbers should be aligned with the glory teams 83 to 87 immediately ?
 
He wasn't sold for 2m plus add-ons though.

Okay you’re right, BBC Sport, sky sports, transfer market, Cardiff city fc are all wrong.

Oh and the Oxford mail.
“The Northern Ireland international signed a four-year contract after moving to the Sky Bet Championship club for an undisclosed fee, understood to be in the region of £2million.”
 
I think you'll find you've mixed up CB and Def Midfield there. Andy Thomas, defensive midfield, number 4. Malcolm Shotton, CB, number 6. And number 8 Centre midfield? Erm, John Aldridge. 10 is your central midfield, Trevor Hebberd...

All squad numbers should be aligned with the glory teams 83 to 87 immediately ?
Yes the positions /numbers did seem to change from the classics....Andy Thomss defensive !!!! Les Phillips or John Trewick yes. And the no 10 role somehow took over no 8 !
 
Don’t forget the Oxford Mail. You know better than all of them too.
I wonder why Oxford United and Cardiff City felt it necessary to say 2 million to the press, but not say the actual fee of 3 million. Strange.

For exactly the reasons why clubs have undisclosed fees. The selling club doesn't want to alert other clubs to how much they have to spend, and the buying clubs don't want to be seen to have spent too much! A stated figure "believed to be around £2m" serves the purposes of both clubs, but it is simply not correct. I know you won't believe me, but I can assure you that the figure was much higher, at around the £3m mark with more to come for appearances and promotion, and a sell on fee that I believe is around 20%.

We're going round and round in circles, and without official proof then I guess it up to you and others to believe what they like. But on this matter I'm very confident with the figures I've given. Best left there I guess.
 
For exactly the reasons why clubs have undisclosed fees. The selling club doesn't want to alert other clubs to how much they have to spend, and the buying clubs don't want to be seen to have spent too much! A stated figure "believed to be around £2m" serves the purposes of both clubs, but it is simply not correct. I know you won't believe me, but I can assure you that the figure was much higher, at around the £3m mark with more to come for appearances and promotion, and a sell on fee that I believe is around 20%.

We're going round and round in circles, and without official proof then I guess it up to you and others to believe what they like. But on this matter I'm very confident with the figures I've given. Best left there I guess.
Again you make a statement as fact and expect/demand everyone to believe you, but you say you are not feed info from the club.
IF you are not being feed info by the club there must be a leak and sensitive stuff is getting out into the public domain.
 
Again you make a statement as fact and expect/demand everyone to believe you, but you say you are not feed info from the club.
IF you are not being feed info by the club there must be a leak and sensitive stuff is getting out into the public domain.

I'm not fed anything by the club. Nearly everything I post is as a consequence of picking up bits and pieces of information already in the public domain, reading between lines and seeking clarity where necessary and appropriate.

On this matter, Robinson and others spoke in the immediate aftermath of Whyte leaving about getting a very good deal and beyond the £2m that was being suggested The Oxford Mail tweeted shortly after that they believed the figure to be around £3m. Other posters have spoken around a deal nearer the £3m mark. This isn't official, but there are enough people saying the same to make me believe that this is a more realistic figure.

But as the fee was undisclosed, we won't know either way until accounts are published for us, Cardiff and Crusaders with their sell on fee, and even then they can be hidden amongst wider costs. And, as mentioned, clubs have transfer fee undisclosed for the benefit of all parties which would also explain why a lower figure gets touted around.

Finally, I don't demand or expect anything on here. I get enough likes to suggest some value what I post, but also more than enough shite from those who disagree. I can be confrontational in my approach at times and get frustrated when some create more and more outlandish rumours to justify a point, rather than looking at the often mundane and boring truth. All of which means that I'm not sure I'd fit with the PR model the club would want.

So I'll keep posting as I do, and you can make your own judgement as to whether it has any validity or not.
 
Obviously the term 'defensive' was relative in that team, even Hardwick would have attacked given half a chance ?
Andy Thomas was a class class player ,if only he hadn't broken his leg at Exeter . Along with Brock and Mark Wright what talent produced by us from local boys .
 
So....2-Cadden RB
3 Ruffles LB
4/5 Dickie /Moore CB
6 Gorrin def mid
7 hall - winger
8 Cam Bran centre mid
9- held back for taylor CF
10- now woodburn
11- fosu - winger
Yep...players just don't link shirt numbers to positions do they ???

When Ayew played as LB ?
 

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Again you make a statement as fact and expect/demand everyone to believe you, but you say you are not feed info from the club.
IF you are not being feed info by the club there must be a leak and sensitive stuff is getting out into the public domain.

Look he can’t admit he was wrong about such a basic fact. Otherwise it would crack the thin facade that he is itk.
It does make me laugh that without a shred of proof and evidence from both clubs, media even KR that the transfer fee was 2 million. It was really 3 and we should just believe him.

Actually I’m itk and in reality Tigers handy man. He told me personally the fee was 20 million (with add ons) but we only published 2 million because we didn’t want clubs to know we had so much money.
I also feed the bullshit figure of 3 million to people at the club to weed out a t**t who’s been leaking info.

See it’s easy... and I feel like I’m much better than all of you cos I’m ITK. Aren’t I great... worship me.
 
I'm not fed anything by the club. Nearly everything I post is as a consequence of picking up bits and pieces of information already in the public domain, reading between lines and seeking clarity where necessary and appropriate.

On this matter, Robinson and others spoke in the immediate aftermath of Whyte leaving about getting a very good deal and beyond the £2m that was being suggested The Oxford Mail tweeted shortly after that they believed the figure to be around £3m. Other posters have spoken around a deal nearer the £3m mark. This isn't official, but there are enough people saying the same to make me believe that this is a more realistic figure.

But as the fee was undisclosed, we won't know either way until accounts are published for us, Cardiff and Crusaders with their sell on fee, and even then they can be hidden amongst wider costs. And, as mentioned, clubs have transfer fee undisclosed for the benefit of all parties which would also explain why a lower figure gets touted around.

Finally, I don't demand or expect anything on here. I get enough likes to suggest some value what I post, but also more than enough shite from those who disagree. I can be confrontational in my approach at times and get frustrated when some create more and more outlandish rumours to justify a point, rather than looking at the often mundane and boring truth. All of which means that I'm not sure I'd fit with the PR model the club would want.

So I'll keep posting as I do, and you can make your own judgement as to whether it has any validity or not.
You are really trying to spin that line to me, we both know the situation some are suckered in some not, you crack on to keep your fragile ego together ?
 
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