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Brexit - Deal or No Deal?

  • Deal

    Votes: 51 29.1%
  • No Deal

    Votes: 77 44.0%
  • Call in the Donald

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Call in Noel Edmonds

    Votes: 8 4.6%
  • I don't care anymore

    Votes: 37 21.1%

  • Total voters
    175
I've just noticed there is a certain irony to this entire thread in that some people have clearly changed their minds about how they voted in the poll that started the thread. I am pretty sure there were votes to "Call in the Don" at one point.

As we all know, polls on YellowsForum are the very epitomy of exemplar democracy and as such have proved that changing your mind and indeed they way you vote are entirely acceptable as part of that process.

Parliament and the country at large should follow this example of cutting edge democracy in progress.
 
Yeh, but don't forget he's a 'lying terrorist loving toad'. This well-researched statement really should be at the forefront of our minds. Highly unlikely that anyone with a brain cell could doubt its accuracy. After all, it's come from someone who recently stated we should all fear Islam because a tiny number of Muslims hold extremist views. This thread is diverging nicely.

I had no idea he was a toad. Amphibious bastard. Coming over here, spawning in our ponds.
 
Coming over here

This is a typical knee-jerk response to terrorist lovers! How do you know he's not a common toad or a natterjack and thus a son of our native races? He's got more right to be here than the 'Royal Family'!
 
I've just noticed there is a certain irony to this entire thread in that some people have clearly changed their minds about how they voted in the poll that started the thread. I am pretty sure there were votes to "Call in the Don" at one point.

As we all know, polls on YellowsForum are the very epitomy of exemplar democracy and as such have proved that changing your mind and indeed they way you vote are entirely acceptable as part of that process.

Parliament and the country at large should follow this example of cutting edge democracy in progress.


You may notice 50% of participants want a solid "No Deal".............. are they brave and intuitive or the cannon fodder?
 
You may notice 50% of participants want a solid "No Deal".............. are they brave and intuitive or the cannon fodder?
Wrong.

The question clearly stipulated what you think will happen, not what you want to happen. I for example put my vote against no deal, because I have thought for a while that this is the most likely outcome, unless something drastically changes, as May's deal was DOA.

It just goes to show that you cannot draw any conclusions from what people vote about the reason they voted that way.
 
All the member states of the EU operate under WTO rules. The EU is just another layer of bureaucracy..

I'm no expert on international trade, but I know enough to be able to say with 100% confidence that that simply isn't true. The EU provides a tariff-free trade area, a customs union and a single market with regulatory alignment. The WTO does none of that, it just provides a very basic trading framework. Also the WTO deals only with goods, whereas 80% of our trade is in services (as is 40% of our trade with the EU).

You clearly didn't read the link I posted before. Here it is again. As I say, I'm no trade expert, but you really ought to try to gain a basic understanding, because statements like the above suggest you simply don't know what you're talking about.
 
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2019 Political odds:

1/2 Theresa May replaced as PM
5/4 New EU Referendum
6/4 General Election
2/1 Corbyn replaced as Labour leader
3/1 UK leaves EU with NO DEAL before 1st April
3/1 Trump replaced as POTUS
4/ 1 Corbyn becomes PM
33/1 Two or more general election

Not very generous odds but another referendum seems the most likely to me.

Anyone fancy two or more general elections?
 
I'm no expert on international trade, but I know enough to be able to say with 100% confidence that that simply isn't true. The EU provides a tariff-free trade area, a customs union and a single market with regulatory alignment. The WTO does none of that, it just provides a very basic trading framework. Also the WTO deals only with goods, whereas 80% of our trade is in services (as is 40% of our trade with the EU).

You clearly didn't read the link I posted before. Here it is again. As I say, I'm no trade expert, but you really ought to try to gain a basic understanding, because statements like the above suggest you simply don't know what you're talking about.

You are right, I didn`t read your link, been on annual leave since the 22nd Dec. :)

That aside.... Parliament are on holiday, the clock is still ticking and nobody has mentioned Brexit on the news barring the one shipping company that looks more like a shell company that got awarded a £15 million contract. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I`ll accept its heading for a cluster F of epic proportions but we will find that business, trade & £££`s will overcome all the difficulties and deliver what the people voted for. :)
 
I`ll accept its heading for a cluster F of epic proportions but we will find that business, trade & £££`s will overcome all the difficulties and deliver what the people voted for. :)


...but probably not what they wanted!
 
5/4 New EU Referendum
6/4 General Election

This seems a bit backwards to me.
May seems pretty clear that she's not going to call a Second Referendum. Rees-Mogg & co. took their shot at removing her internally, and failed so she's not going to be ousted from power by her own party. So I struggle to see how we end up with a Second Referendum without having a General Election first.

But if the mid-January vote comes round for her deal and she can't get it through parliament (she won't), she can't get any further concessions out of the EU (she can't) and the government hasn't prepared properly to avoid the country grinding to a halt in the no deal eventuality (it hasn't), then I'm struggling to see how she can get anywhere without calling a General Election.

She was elected with one major job to do, that she has ****ed up royally (I have some sympathy that it may well have been an impossible job.....but a competent leader would have had a more effective go of it). It's time for her to fall on her sword and go back to the people.
Who will either give her a parliament that will pass her deal, will decide that Corbyn is a more trustworthy hand on the tiller (?!?) or will return the same parliament again in which case we can keep going round in circles for all eternity.
 
Anyone who thinks that no deal is a simple solution clearly hasn't thought about it very hard.

I mean, it's a simple negotiation tactic, I guess. But it's a web of complexity for the country post-exit that May & co. haven't even remotely planned for.
 
Anyone who thinks that no deal is a simple solution clearly hasn't thought about it very hard.

I mean, it's a simple negotiation tactic, I guess. But it's a web of complexity for the country post-exit that May & co. haven't even remotely planned for.
Putting it in simple language that everyone can understand....






It's a clusterf#ck.
 
Putting it in simple language that everyone can understand....

It's a clusterf#ck.

You know what, I think after 32 pages, both sides have now pretty much converged on that same opinion.

All we, and the likes of Essex Yellow, now disagree on is whether that's a good or a bad thing!
 
Anyone who thinks that no deal is a simple solution clearly hasn't thought about it very hard.

I mean, it's a simple negotiation tactic, I guess. But it's a web of complexity for the country post-exit that May & co. haven't even remotely planned for.

They have done a little planning, not very well, hence the ridiculous decision to award a contract to Seaborne Freight:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46748193
 
I'm waiting for the press to do some digging about the directors and backers of this doubtless reputable and well set up company...
 
I'm waiting for the press to do some digging about the directors and backers of this doubtless reputable and well set up company...
Funny you should mention digging....

Apparently one of the founders is the brother of the owner of JCB...a well known Tory donor and advocate of Brexit.......

But you shouldn't judge a man by his brother...I mean, look at Joe and Boris Johnson!
 
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