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Yeah, but Ivanka might
And in any case, D Trump snr might not qualify if there are outstanding lawsuits against him....or he's already behind bars
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And in any case, D Trump snr might not qualify if there are outstanding lawsuits against him....or he's already behind bars
I don't but I suspect that unlike a load of politicians today he does say it straight ( I am amazed at politicians in the UK who never answer a question)
He doesn't seem to care less about the establishment.
I am not suggesting that is a reason for voting for him but maybe the disenfranchised see that as a strength?
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Which is why populism is a very dark, dangerous path to go down. They might appear to speak for the disenfrachised (or those who have been told they are disenfrachised by those with an axe to grind)....but they really don't, or rarely do and history is littered with appalling examples of where it nearly always ends up.
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This is part of his 'genius', convincing the masses that he's anti-establishment despite being part of the very fabric of it. Farage also has this 'quality' in spades, as - to a lesser extent - does our current PM.
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He doesn't so much 'say it as it is' but says it as he perceives potential Trump voters want him to say it. Many of his speeches / outbursts are punctuated with downright lies that only have to be swallowed by sufficient numbers to get him over the line.
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That is an odd thing to say, as a good proportion of what he says is simply lies. The rest is exaggeration and half truth!
A lot of the Republican establishment, yes - but they're not the ones that vote for the nominee. Trump still has a big, very loyal base of supporters that would probably still turn up to vote for him (though I don't know whether they would turn up for Ivanka. (a) she's a woman, which would disqualify her in the minds of certain Trumpets neanderthals and (b) she's a bit too thoughtful and cares about socialist issues like maternity leave and childcare)
Course, Trump would be 80 years old by 2024. And he's not exactly in possession of all of his marbles already.
And of course on top of all of that - he hasn't lost this year yet. And whilst all the national polls are heavily in Biden's favor, and he's almost certainly going to win the popular vote, the swing states that the election will depend on are still close enough that a Trump victory is still very possible.
(so is a four year court battle for that matter........)
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I loved this comment from a BBC article
„But Professor Yan Xuetong, dean of the Institute of International Relations at Beijing's Tsinghua University, disagrees.
"If you ask me about where China's interests lie," he says, "the preference would be for Trump rather than Biden".
"Not because Trump will do less damage to China's interests than Biden, but because he definitely will damage the US more than Biden"
„But Professor Yan Xuetong, dean of the Institute of International Relations at Beijing's Tsinghua University, disagrees.
"If you ask me about where China's interests lie," he says, "the preference would be for Trump rather than Biden".
"Not because Trump will do less damage to China's interests than Biden, but because he definitely will damage the US more than Biden"
I can't stand Trump. I am trying to understand why he gets so many votes and support.
He undoubtedly does tell a lot of lies (not sure how that is different from many politicians worldwide)
I think that he is very dangerous especially on the whole climate change denial.
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I think there is a difference between Trump and many others in that while some will avoid answering a question or couch a reply in such a way as to paint the picture they want to put forwards, Trump is perfectly happy to tell absolute bare-faced, easily disproven untruths. He doesn't care if he gets called out on it, because he knows that some of his supporters will defend him vociferously, even if he claims that black is white, north is south and the sun revolves around the earth. And he will just say 'fake news' about anything saying otherwise.
He is a clown - but a dangerous one, because it shows that some people don't actually want to think about things - they just want an agenda that panders to them (no matter whether it is at all practical or sensible or caring) and a few slogans to shout and get printed on t-shirts, along with an 'enemy' to demonise.
More worrying even than that, so far as we are concerned, is that the current government seem to be 'learning lessons' from him. We've had Lord alone knows how many 'world beating', 'moonshot' initiatives, the government lies about how it treated care homes initially etc. It's a slippery slope and one I hope our politicians decide not to slide down any further.
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It is fascinating and very scary in equal measure just how easily people succumb to this level of brainwashing too.
I find it equally odd that some still think out of Trump and Biden that Trump is the lesser of two evils....I simply cannot get my head around that!
I find it equally odd that some still think out of Trump and Biden that Trump is the lesser of two evils....I simply cannot get my head around that!
There's a significant proportion of the US population that basically don't believe in government - at least on the federal level.
It's not really that surprising when you compare the US to Europe. In Europe, there's such population density that it's just not possible to live without your actions impacting people around you. But in large swathes of the US, it's possible to be almost entirely self-reliant and to get very minimally involved in social systems.
To someone like that, Biden and the Democrats - with their promises of socialized medicine and green new deals - can be scary. Offering nothing to benefit them, but taking more taxes.
It's a self-centered attitude, but not irrational.
......and then there's a lot of Trump supporters that are just dumb and racist.
Isn't Obamacare (for shorthand) becoming more popular in the US with the general population over time (or have I made that up in my head)?
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I think they’re much more in favour of the Affordable Care Act
(according to one of those vox pop videos I saw somewhere)Yes, but we're still talking about 55% approval.
The anti-Biden folks I'm referring to would, I imagine, be squarely in the other 45%.
I wasn't linking the 2 tbh, the question popped into my head when you mentioned socialized medicine.
I mean I can get into a really long rant about Obamacare, because it is a really dumb and extraordinarily expensive system.
It's basically just a tiny step on the way to a socialized system of medicine. But that step, to my mind, is better than nothing at all so I'd rather it be the law of the land than what came before.
And of course the Republicans have been completely unable to come up with any alternatives that don't leave tens of millions of Americans with no insurance and unable to afford healthcare, which is why it has survived now for a decade.......
It's basically just a tiny step on the way to a socialized system of medicine. But that step, to my mind, is better than nothing at all so I'd rather it be the law of the land than what came before.
And of course the Republicans have been completely unable to come up with any alternatives that don't leave tens of millions of Americans with no insurance and unable to afford healthcare, which is why it has survived now for a decade.......
Oops as it obviously happened considering he is the one tweeting about it. How can anybody get caught out by the Borat character now, considering the circumstances and the previous film?
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