General Set Pieces

ttg17

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I thought our newfound prowess from set pieces deserved its own thread. Mous has done one hell of a job on them.

Just saw this graphic on Twitter and thought it was very interesting.


I appreciate it's fairly simplistic, but my main takeaways, looking at League 1, were that

A) We're surprisingly not that good, relative to the division, from attacking set plays. Pretty middle-of-the-pack. I suppose that's because we've only really started scoring prolifically from them recently (5 in our last 6 league games, I think?), but I intuitively thought we'd be better.

B) The correlation between prowess at set pieces and league position is pretty exact. Hull and Lincoln have the best GD, while Burton, Rochdale and Wigan have the three worst defences against set pieces (Swindon a notable exception). An interesting chicken and egg question for me - are they top of the league because they have the best players, and that quality is reflected in their dominance from dead ball situations? Or are they top of the league in part because, in a league of fine margins, they make the most of those dead ball situations? I'm tempted to think the latter, which is good news for us: with a dedicated set piece specialist on the coaching staff, a squad full of dead ball experts (Henry, Forde, Kelly, Grayson, etc.) and some big targets in the box (Moore, Atkinson, Ruffels), we must have the most danger we've had at corners in years.
 
Very interesting. No shock on Rochdale's numbers!

Hopefully with things getting more settled, defensively and going forward, then our numbers improve. Generally it is noticeable (and probably obvious) the correlation between the areas of the table clubs inhabit and their record.
 
Interesting.
I am surprised that we haven't scored more.
The goals conceded with set pieces presumably were mainly in the first 10 games when we were awful defensively.
I wonder how we compare against last season?
 
Depends what definition of scoring from set pieces you use!

For example, Wyscout uses a 14second cut off - if you have a corner and score 13seconds later, its counted as a set piece goal (I think - at least when I last looked!)

I've been banging on about set pieces for quite a while. We've had some genuine innovation from them this season and with 9 goals in half a season...mirror that in the second half of the season and you have the output of a top League One striker (nearly have @bazzer9461 20 goal a season striker!) for a fraction of the price. I've banged this drum before, I won't bore everyone again!
 
Depends what definition of scoring from set pieces you use!

For example, Wyscout uses a 14second cut off - if you have a corner and score 13seconds later, its counted as a set piece goal (I think - at least when I last looked!)

I've been banging on about set pieces for quite a while. We've had some genuine innovation from them this season and with 9 goals in half a season...mirror that in the second half of the season and you have the output of a top League One striker (nearly have @bazzer9461 20 goal a season striker!) for a fraction of the price. I've banged this drum before, I won't bore everyone again!
Shosho, do you have the stats to show how we are doing as compared last season?
I totally agree with the innovation shown recently
 
Loving the innovation, hopefully we'll continue to baffle the opposition. The love train is my favourite! 💘
 
Shosho, do you have the stats to show how we are doing as compared last season?
I totally agree with the innovation shown recently
Yup - 7 all of last season
 
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