Other European European Super League one step closer?

So each club will get £€316 million just for taking part. This will give them a massive unfair advantage in the domestic league if FIFA and UEFA allowed it. No wonder Arsenal want to join!

I can then see the proper EPL clubs taking some form of action.
 
I found this good article.

How much money does the UEFA Champions League generate?
Every European club dreams of winning the champions league, and it’s not for the glory of it alone. Qualifying for the Champions League guarantees participating clubs plenty of money. Winning a single game earns a club €2.7 million while a draw commands €900,000.

Qualifying for the round of 16 raises the earnings made to €9.5 million while winning the competition comes with the promise of €19 million. When you add performance bonuses, a Champions League winner takes home over €100 million. For a comprehensive breakdown of how much the Champions League is worth, read this article to the end.

Prize Money

The UEFA Champions League is one of the best paying competitions in the world. More than FIFA World Cup, the tournament generates over €3 billion per season and pays out participating clubs at least €2.5 billion. The exact figures change each season. But so far, the tournament has been generating more cash with each new season.

In the 2018/19 season, UEFA generated €3.25 billion. It deducted €295m to cover for administration costs and €510 for the Europa League and the Super Cup. It also paid out €227.5m to the football associations of most of the leagues that participate in the tournament.

After the deductions, Champions League participants competed for €2.04 billion. It is important to note the competing clubs include those that participate in the qualifiers but fail to clinch a spot in the group stage. These teams share €30 million.

Guaranteed Group Stage Money
Last year, UEFA pooled €488 million to be shared equally amongst all teams that qualified for the group stage. As a result, all the 32 clubs involved in the group stage took home €15.25 million each.

Performance Bonuses
As we mentioned, each club earns €2.7m for every win in the group stage while draws also make a club a whooping €900,000. The winner and runners up of each group also take home €2m and €1m respectively. Unsurprisingly, each Champions League teams yearn to win every game. As a result, the tournament’s football betting odds are ever competitive, and bookies always look forward to covering the competition.

Knock-out stage Bonuses
Qualifying for the round of 16 comes with enormous bonuses for teams. In the 2018/19 season, UEFA had a €585m pot for the 16 teams that qualified. Like in the group stage, each win in the knock out stages earns a club €2.7m while a draw equals €0.9m.

Teams that get knocked out at the round-of-16 take home €9.5m each. Those that reach the quarter-finals earn €10.5m while the semi-finalists earn €12m. Reaching the finals adds €3m to each qualified team while the winners take home €19m.

TV Income
Champions League participants also earn a share of UEFA’s TV income. However, where each team comes from and their average TV viewership determines how much they make.

As a result, premier league, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, and Ligue One sides earn more than other lower-ranked league teams. For reference, UEFA paid out €292m in TV viewership income in the 2018/19 season.

Coefficient Income
Beginning this season, UEFA will distribute €585 million to clubs with the most Champions League appearances for the past ten years. Through the system, a club like Barcelona which has appeared in the previous ten Champions League tournaments will earn more money than debutants.

Shirt-Sales

Although clubs earn their highest chunk of Champions League money from UEFA; they have more money generating income. Shirt sales, for instance, make the top club millions of euros. Real Madrid consistently sells over 1.6m jerseys each year. Assuming the club sold each jersey for €50, it would earn €80m.

Manchester sells over 1.5m jersey while Barcelona, Bayern, and other top clubs hit over one million jersey sales each year. Of course, not all club jerseys are sold because they appeared in the Champions League, but it helps.

Jersey manufacturers also pay handsomely to clubs that perform well in the Champions League. As such, all top clubs always fight to produce their best performances while participating in the tournament.

Social Media

Studies show football fans spend more time on social media during the Champions League and FIFA World Cup than any other tournament. From Brazil to the USA, Europe to Africa, clubs enjoy a beehive of social interactions with global fans on social media.

Clubs that perform past the round of 16 consistently attract millions of social media fans. It’s not surprising considering that most people want to be associated with the best performing teams. Regardless, the numbers are what matter to clubs.

Although it’s difficult to monetize social media success, clubs tend to use the opportunity to build a fan base that could help increase TV income. Social media numbers can also be converted to jersey sales and other merchandises clubs sell.

Sponsorship Money

Some companies only sponsor football clubs that participate in the Champions League. Manchester United is a great example. Although it’s still England’s most valuable club, it could be worth more had it qualified for the Champions League this year.

Club sponsors benefit through exposure to the fans, and they know the Champions League brings out fans in droves. Again, being in UEFA increases a club’s bargaining power when finding new sponsors. Companies want football teams driven by the motivation to win trophies, especially prestigious competitions.

In the past five years, Real Madrid and Barcelona have topped the world’s most valuable club ranking. At times, Manchester has topped the list. But other than United, most of the clubs in the top 10 wealthiest clubs have a record for qualifying and performing well in the Champions League.

To Conclude

The Champions League generates over €3 billion each year. That’s by far the most significant pool for a club-based sports competition. UEFA withholds over €500 million to cover for administration and other costs. It also gives out €500m to clubs in the Europa League.

However, the biggest prize pool goes out to teams playing the Champions League. And as we mentioned above, a team’s league, performance, and fan play a significant impact on how much they garner from the tournament.
 
Crash and burn comes to mind.

If this happens I hope the Premier League arrange for every British club to play a midweek game.
 
I am finding the likes of the Premier League and the FA championing the football pyramid quite amusing, must be the first time they've ever shown they may actually give a toss about lower league football?
 
So the "Big 6" have asked for the Moon on a stick. Uproar.
It`ll go quiet for a few month`s, there are no rules to punish them.
They will come back with a halfway step and a few crumbs for the pyramid.
And then in another 5 years it`ll happen "for the good of football".

That`s how it always works..... it stinks.

Every club that signed that letter should be thrown out of their respective league and see how they get on then.
 
Essexyellows said:
So the "Big 6" have asked for the Moon on a stick. Uproar.
It`ll go quiet for a few month`s, there are no rules to punish them.
They will come back with a halfway step and a few crumbs for the pyramid.
And then in another 5 years it`ll happen "for the good of football".

That`s how it always works..... it stinks.

Every club that signed that letter should be thrown out of their respective league and see how they get on then.
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100% agree.

It's like the Abomination Trophy but on a bigger scale.
 
I suppose the money men have seen teams play in empty stadiums so even if fans boycott the games then TV rights will be keeping this lge alive. The alternative could be these teams end up playing in a steaming hot Dubai for example.
 
Leysboy said:
Bayern Munich have said they won’t be joining. Good for them, and I suspect the other German club will follow suit.

Nice to see clubs have morals, rather than chase more money.
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How can it be a European Superleague without Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Paris St Germain?
 
So it’s 15 teams, the named 12 plus 3 more yet to reveal themselves (but obviously PSG, Bayern Munich who probably don’t want to put there heads above the parapet yet and one other who I can’t think of) and 5 teams who qualify through domestic competitions ( can’t see the paint pot being the route in but who knows, they might fancy the b teams getting in for double the cash) in two groups of ten then top teams play in two legged quarter finals onwards, sounds riveting, can’t wait to see Spurs fail in a different competition.

It probably is a ploy to get automatic qualification to the champions league for the elite (and spurs) and a bigger share of the money but even so it’s obviously heading towards a European NFL eventually, the same clubs playing each other endlessly with no cups and no relegation battles, all the excitement taken out and guaranteed money for Spurs and Arsenal like mediocrity, the ultimate armchair competition.

It will never compare to losing to Barnet away and swearing you are never going to watch that shite again.
 
Concretebob said:
I am finding the likes of the Premier League and the FA championing the football pyramid quite amusing, must be the first time they've ever shown they may actually give a toss about lower league football?
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This is my favourite bit from the announcement:

“The founding clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.”

They’re doing it for the sake of grass roots football. You couldn’t make it up.
 
WestOxon U’s said:
How can it be a European Superleague without Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Paris St Germain?
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Bayern and Dortmund are scared to reveal themselves, due to the 49+1 rule in Germany. You think fans are going mad here? It would go off over there if those two joined up.
 
This is the brainchild of the American bank JB Morgan. Also not surprisingly it's being headed up by the Glazers and Stan Kroenke (both Americans) who have been bad for the game from the moment they took over Man Utd and Arsenal respectively. It's clear what the game is - to create something to emulate the NFL - where you have 20 franchises around Europe selling out to the highest bidder.

So Man Utd will become the Manchester Devils, Man City something like the Manchester Dolphins, Arsenal the London Gunners - you get the idea. About ten years down they will look for more opportunities to make themselves even richer and do what is common in the NFL - relocate their franchises. Manchester only has a population of 500,000 - why have two clubs, when you can move one of them to a large European city like Berlin? Same with Arsenal (sorry the London Gunners) - maybe they'll move to Rome as they haven't got a franchise.

It will end in tears - and when, rather than if, Man Utd etc come crawling back on their knees to the FA, then they will need to be told to start again at the bottom like clubs like Aldershot, Chester, AFC Wimbledon had to.
 
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I posted this on The Times comments section for the story:
Are Arsenal and Spurs reality leading clubs?!

Loved the reply:
They are both leading lights in a little known sub-sub-sub regional or 'north London' division of the EPL.
 
Concretebob said:
100% agree.

It's like the Abomination Trophy but on a bigger scale.
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This is the scary bit for me.

We were all aghast at the Abomination Trophy when it first launched but as it continued, you could see more and more of the short-sighted fans just jumping back on the wagon because its just "what we do".

Similar absent mindedness and mental bargaining in this case will mean the death of football.

Compromise by UEFA or the FA will be the death of football.

This is the big one!
 
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